Bessler Wheel Complete ( almost )

[Besslers Assistant]

Bessler, Milkovic and the pursuit for Mechanical Overunity.

First off I live on Peswiki so most of my knowledge comes from the info that is on the site. The first article I read of Milkovic's two stage oscillator I was shore that in a year or two that his device would be self looped and we would have free energy. But to my dismay it never happened. Because of Professor Milkovic work I came upon the experiments of Boomtown laboratories. I followed every experiment and learned a lot from Mr. Raymond L. Head and his assistants. I read through the Gravity motor section of Peswiki and came upon Johann Bessler work. Surpossidly a man by the name of Johann Bessler discovered Perpetual motion and tried to get payed for his work but die prematurely. I followed Bessler's work through the efforts of one John Collins. Mr. Collins had translated the books of Johann Bessler, but I was super strapped for cash and did not buy any of the translations. But following the many sites dedicated to Bessler I came upon the work of Mr. Alden E. Park and his interpretation of Bessler's "little Book" parables. Sorry to say that I only concentrated on the sections of his works talking about Bessler's "little Book". I came to the some of the same conclusions as Mr. Park, but it was clear to me that I got more out of it than he did. I realize this when I saw his drawing of what he understood of Bessler's work. I will say now that the only thing that is not completed of Bessler's Wheel is the triggering mechanisms, for some reason I cannot figure it out and will not wait to do so, for it will take me too long and I Know some of you out there has the means and capabilities to finish it.
Please indulge me for a little bit in my thoughts of the pursuit of Mechanical Overunity (Perpetual Motion). Now, with a better understanding of the technology I see the errors of our ways when it came to the works of Bessler and Milkovic. Milkovic promoted the idea of the two stage oscillator and will be for me the father of the technology. But it seems that there was a Grandfather and he was Bessler. While reading Bessler's "little Book", I realized that he was talking about two stage oscillation. This thought I believe is what helped me to figuer out his device. I understood there that both Bessler's and Milkovic's followers was making the same mistake. In that The Bessler followers always have the wheel in mind and then they try to figure out a mechanism to achieve mechanical Overunity. The Milkovic followers have the pendulum and lever in mind and they try to loop the system. Both groups fail because they need the other and did not know it.
Please note that you must have an understanding of both Bessler's and Milkovic's work. I do not explain in great detail, if I did this article would be about 20 pages. I used Algodoo to draw and test some of the parts, so they are not of high quality, but you really only need the concept.
I really do not know where to start, but I must make the comment, that Johann Bessler is a Master of many things. He not only encrypted his explanations of his device, but the device itself has many levels of understanding that are subtle and powerful. The common part of this "Pendulum-Wheel" is the roller bearings. I do not know if the is a modern type of his roller bearings that equal his, but Bessler used friction (Static friction) to his advantage. My explanation will only confuse you so all I will say is that it is made up of wheels within wheels (please look at figure one.). The Pendulum Wheel (PW) is made up of three wheels of different sizes (small, medium, Large) having his roller bearings at the heart and a large pendulum (see figure two). The axis of the three wheels is equally spaced, the center wheel is the large wheel and it is connected to the supporting frame. The pendulum has the same axis point as the large wheel, but they are not connected. The small wheel sits on top of or directly above the pendulums heavy weight (the anvil). There is a chain connecting the large wheel to the small wheel. The weight of the pendulum and the small wheel share the same surface, but there is a disconnect of the pendulum weight and its axis point. It is like a rod in a cylinder, the cylinder is connected to the axis point and the rod is connected to the weight, but the rod is not connected to the cylinder. The chain holds the weight of the pendulum. This arrangement allows the pendulum weight to move up and down when it swings. It also allows the pendulum momentum to be transferred to the large wheel when it is at the lowest point. But the momentum of the large wheel can be extracted when the pendulum is at its highest point, with some lost of horizontal velocity. The medium wheel sits above the large wheel (Bessler called this wheel the torque Governor and you will soon know why). The medium wheel shares its' axis point with a hairspring coil. The center of the coil is connected to a roller bearing at the axis point. The medium wheel and this roller bearing are not connected. The other end of the coil is connected to a balanced rod which sits across the coil going through the axis point. This coil is part of the triggering mechanisms (which will take me too long to figure out). In figure two there is a rectangular box, this is the space where the triggering mechanism may go. Bessler said the flail arms pivot points where connected to the outer frame of the PW. There is a simple lever with two long right angle arms, one arm is connected to the pendulums weight and the other sits around the triggering boxed area. So how does this work, some of you (I hope) have deduced it already, if not here we go. Wait, we need the Apologia figure (AF), because this figure is not a wheel of any kind, it is a power diagram. As the pendulum swings the weight is pulled down, the trigger mechanism (TM) waits till the pendulum enters the bottom leg (white shaded area) of the AF. The trigger goes off and hits the medium wheel with a large force (equal to the weight of the pendulum if swung at 60 degrees). This force spins the medium wheel, at the same time; the pendulums' weight tightens the chain around the small and large wheel. The tightening of the chain spins the large wheel also; when this pressure is released the large wheel begins to spin the small wheel. The spinning of the small wheel helps the pendulum gain a little height. On reaching the top of its ascent and heading back down the trigger is activated again and one end of the flail arm is sent into the medium wheel, this causes the other end to hit the weight of the pendulum. From the speed of the medium wheel the flail arm will go back and forth hitting the weight of the pendulum. The other two legs of the AF is the maximum height which must be set (and can be set to any height form 0 to 180 degrees). The height of the arms of the AF sets how much power you get out of the PW. The dark portion of the AF between the upper arms and the lower leg (which has white dots) is where Bessler said the pendulum gains its' energy from gravity. The flail follows the pendulum changing height and I believe at the lowest point, the flail may be ratcheted up as the swing of the pendulum grows. The power of the Pendulum Wheel is absorbed in pluses, by the weight going down and tightening the small wheel's chain. The output is taken out in pluses by the spin of the large wheel. But as you can see form figure two the large wheel spinning has little influence on the pendulum swing.
So all that is needed now is the triggering mechanisms, one can make an electro-mechanical triggering system or try and create a pure mechanical triggering system just like or similar to Bessler's original.

[path_finder]

Dear Besslers Assistant,
Many thanks for sharing.
I need more time for the review of your complex description.
IMHO there shall be another more simpler way to implement your concept.
I totally agree with you: the missing stage is the mechanical part in charge of the synchronization between the two pendula, whatever the used design.

[Richard]

Dear BA..absolutely appreciated..

jacob alex and I've, been currently exploring the top half pendule arrangement of your design....very nice...

again..thank you much for your works and insight....and I shall take you up on the invitation to "think the synch."

richard

[AB Hammer]

Greetings Besslers Assistant

I see you have decided to post it on the forum. I have been looking at it for awhile now and have been busy with my own as well. You should get a lot of responses here. It is obvious you are trying to follow Bessler's clues by this approach. But it is still only one possible road, but good work so far.
I and I am sure others, would like to see your construction so far as well since you posted the design.

[DrWhat]

Wow BA! Thanks for posting. I like the overall and good appearance.

[Richard]

...there is still much I must learn of your design..to appreciate possible successes.
..first I'll digress to the "Wheel" minus the arrangement..

..Bessler wheel (as I understand it) was a very light shell? ..and as such, would have built little fictitious force(s)

..because of the reset and sync (of the inner wheel pendule) and the improbability for fictitious force(s) to carry a Load of bricks (70 lbs)..?

..a perceptible "shuttering" should have been noticed by those watching the wheel perform a work..?


richard

[jim_mich]

Bessler wheel (as I understand it) was a very light shell? ..and as such, would have built little fictitious force(s)

I disagree. First, though one might think that a cloth covered 12 foot wheel might be light, such is not the case when one does some actual calculations. John Collins estimated the empty wheel to be somewhere near 500 pounds, if I remember correctly. I've calculated a typical wooden wheel to be between 300 and 400 pounds. Plus there is the weight of the mechanisms. Then add the weights, which were estimated to be about 4 lb each and here heard hitting eight times per rotation. So we have as least 32 pounds minimum for just the weights. My opinion is that there were two weights for each "bang" that was heard, and thus there was about 64 pounds of weights. And my opinion is that there was a mirror imaged mechanism used in the 12 foot bi-directional wheels. So that puts the total weight of just the weights somewhere in the range of about 128 pounds. now working backward the mechanisms must support all these weights as they move and do their thing. Plus the CF's involved may have peaked at about four times the weight of the weights. Thus the wheel would have needed to hold/contain/support/control upwards of 500 pounds of force, plus support its own weight. Thus, the wheel could not be too wimpy. A wheel able to do the job would need to be rather strong. And the mechanisms would need to be hefty. I would put the lower limit for such a wheel a maybe 300 pound, and an upper range of maybe the 500 pounds that JC estimates.

So.. I would not think one could say a "very light shell" when describing Bessler's wheel.


I'm not sure what you mean by 'fictitious forces' as it relates to just the wheel shell? I assume you mean inertial forces. I'm sure a 300 to 500 pound wheel would have enough inertial momentum to mask and smooth any pulsing of the weights.

Just my opinions. I could be wrong.

[Grimer]

You could be. But I don't think you are. I agree with your assessment.

[Richard]

jim_mich notes

I'm not sure what you mean by 'fictitious forces' as it relates to just the wheel shell? I assume you mean inertial forces. I'm sure a 300 to 500 pound wheel would have enough inertial momentum to mask and smooth any pulsing of the weights.

Just my opinions. I could be wrong.




Richard..

..yes jim..this is exactly right...

it is possible that the many weights Bessler was seen, to have unloaded into a box...could have given mass to a wheel...

..often I am reminded...that Bessler claimed...(paraphrased) " oh that one..that was an entirely different principle of operation...

..Can we agree on this...we borrow from Bessler what suits are concept,...much the same way a zealot might build a whole theology around a single verse or chapter..?

..if this is the case...then I can see my error...in supposing a " very light shell?

richard

[Grimer]

Can we agree on this...we borrow from Bessler what suits our concept,...much the same way a zealot might build a whole theology around a single verse or chapter..?

I'll hold my hand up to that one.

[getterdone]

It seems to be exepted that the 4 lbs cylinders that Bessler pulled from the wheel before transfering it to another stand were weights, yet I don't recall Bessler ever saying that they were. To the best of my recolection it was the witnesses that said that those were the weights.
Am I wrong.

[Grimer]

It seems to be accepted that the 4 lbs cylinders that Bessler pulled from the wheel before transferring it to another stand were weights, yet I don't recall Bessler ever saying that they were. To the best of my recollection it was the witnesses that said that those were the weights.
Am I wrong.

I don't really think Bessler needed to say they were weights. I would have thought that was obvious to all concerned.

[Richard]

....o.k..


...I think the angle lever(s) must provide a tension on the chain (as the weight raises) much like any tensioner...would this be correct?

..also we need to rachet up the lever arms..( from the author )

richard

[FunWithGravity2]

2 Cents

First penny, 50 bucks says BA is Alden'

Second cent. How do people get this far with conceptual builds without having any POP for the simplest motions. The POP has to be easy and confirmable to move forward. There has to be that movement that gets observed/felt that just says here is your energy sir, now make something with it.


No change necessary



Crazy Dave

[Richard]

...Dave...?

that is beautiful..man.....I agree..the motion should talk..

Are you serious...Alden..I'd work with him without being decvieved..

...this is making me feel a bit foolish...

I think maybe I'll drop this design...for now anyways.

AB...Alan can you help me out here...even a gut feeling would be good..

richard