The Clues...

[murilo]

I am new to this forum but not the Bessler wheel so I am focusing on the clues to the wheel. The one that stands out is the early wheel that turned only one way had to be tied or it would just start turning. This means that it was unbalanced right off. In all of my wheel attempts I define the real problem as the reset - we can embody something to turn but then how do we reset that piece so it can repeat the motion? I suspect the clued that ties to the reset is the weights were in pairs. The other problem with my attempts was bottom heavy Center of Gravity CG. When a weight shifts to cause motion it usually causes a lower CG and thus the inevitable run-down and stop. So how can one cause motion and not get bottom heavy? I thought inertia might do that. So picture the rollers in a roller bearing such that
only one end is dropped and thus causing inertia and then it is reset by
going back to its origin for another drop. It seems to me this might not
create the bottom heavy problem.

I am enjoying the many enlightening discussions. My claim to fame is my pendulum that swings higher than its dropped point from magnets that are placed along the way. I have a magnet addiction and we will have overunity when we can use a small force to release a larger force.

Norman

Norman,
welcome to our forum!
When possible, pls share your mag pendulum.
Best!
M.

[nebollinger]

This is the video for the pendulum that goes 2 hrs past its dropped point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FzK2XKQ-74
There are no batteries or anything hidden - just magnets and a pendulum
carefully arranged and adjusted to get that extra 2 hrs of motion. It would be similar to the Finsrud device in very simple terms but does not run itself.
I wanted this to be very simple so there can be no arguments.
The magnet under the paper pointer is vertical and a neo while the radial magnets are lying down flat all in the same polarity.
I place them on metal to make fine adjustment.

Norman

[rlortie]

I am enjoying the many enlightening discussions. My claim to fame is my pendulum that swings higher than its dropped point from magnets that are placed along the way. I have a magnet addiction and we will have overunity when we can use a small force to release a larger force.

Hello Norman, Welcome aboard! Been some time since we last crossed paths, glad to see you here. It was the same thought that brought me to this forum. Augment one so called 'conservative' force with another.

Another thing that brought me here was the installment of a defibrillator, I was told that I would have to give up my pursuit of magnetic research.

For those of you who are not familiar with Norman B., He has been around for quite a few years and is best known on a number of forums related to magnetic propulsion. I cannot recall when we first met, but I do recall it was earlier than December of 2002.

Norman, is your magnetic website still up, the one where you ran tests on different conductive material measuring the properties of counter emf (Lenz law)?

Ralph Lortie

[nicbordeaux]

That's an interesting vid Norman, even if we don't have the input power. I like mags, and have this daydream plan occasionally that one day I'll build something similar to what you are showing but with the mags able to rotate in limited proportion (spring restraint ?) so as to attract, then repel/kick. Seems the only way to get a reset.

[daanopperman]

What you describe is a roller bearing

Yes Jim ,

Wolf in your post said " only one sixth of it carried the weight " , to me that indicates he had a bearing with six rollers and only the bottom one carried weight , if it was a bush JB would have called it a bush . If more rollers were added he would decrease the size of the rollers and add more of them , so more would carry weight but less surface area on each roller . How do you explain the " only one sixth " of the bush carrying weight .

[jim_mich]

Daanopperman, the exact quote was:

At the moment it can lift a weight of sixty pounds, but to achieve this the pulley had to be reduced more than four times, making the lifting quite slow. The diameter of the wheel is about twelve feet, and as well, the bearing was quite thin, about one quarter of an inch and only a sixth of its length was subject to friction.

So notice that "a sixth of its length was subject to friction". If the 1/4 inch diameter axle pin were to stick out 3 inches from the six foot long wooden axle and rest in a 1/2 inch long bearing bushing then 1/6 of the length of the axle pin would be subject to friction.

[daanopperman]

Jim ,
Point taken .

[Richard]

question

Norman, is your magnetic website still up, the one where you ran tests on different conductive material measuring the properties of counter emf (Lenz law)?

Ralph Lortie

I would be equally interested for the answer, to the question Ralph ask.

specifically; Is it Magnetics, pendule or EMF. that have the greater emphasis ( or interest)....and to reiterate;

Is your website still up?

richard

I should note, I do not ascribe any confidence to " Gravity Theory" and believe in absorption of vacuum and fluxion potential.

richard

[nebollinger]

Ralf Lorte its good to hear from you. I was reading your posts and have a lot of respect for you. . My website is no
longer there. I had to retire with a health problem and later they trashed the computer and redesignated it for student work only. I have copies of the work somewhere on a cd.
I may get around to posting some of that stuff elsewhere someday. Have serious flooding in the Pa area today - kept me busy to get water pumped out.

I have tried several ways to turn magnet forces off and on but have failed.
If we can use a small force to turn on or off a larger force then we will have OU. Its that simple.
I just wish we could nail something soon.
The world needs an energy solution.

Norman

[Timothy]

Clue:

1) Something that serves to guide or direct in the solution of a problem or mystery.

2) To give (someone) guiding information.

I have often caught flak for not believing that Bessler left clues. If definition #1 is used then, of course, he left clues: he lived, loved, talked, wrote, built, interacted with others. He left a trail to be inspected. Like Sherlock Holmes we examine every detail in an attempt to find the solution to the mystery.

If definition #2 is used, then no, I don't think he left clues. And yes, I am familiar with the cover page to MT:

"However, I have left all demonstrations and experiments, since it would be difficult for anybody to see or learn anything about a perpetual motion from them or to decide whether there was any truth in them because no illustration by itself contains a description of the motion; however, taking various illustrations together and combining them with a discerning mind, it will indeed be possible to look for a movement and, finally to find one in them. "

Add to this, that he exhibited pride in being a skillful liar and his veracity is problematic.

Clues from definition #1 are worth exploring. "Clues" from #2 do not give "guiding information" so as to solve the mystery.

Just the view from this keyboard.

[ruggerodk]

"Add to this, that he exhibited pride in being a skillful liar and his veracity is problematic."

Excuse me Timothy - but where do you see JB acting as a skillful liar and what makes you believe him being untruthfull?

IMO JB does exactly what he stated: Saying things straight forward in plain German.

ruggero ;-)

[jim_mich]

Excuse me Timothy - but where do you see JB acting as a skillful liar and what makes you believe him being untruthful ?

Thank you ruggero, I was about to ask Timothy the same thing.

[daxwc]

But I would often answer them back as if I was a mumbling
shepherd. They got no word of truth from me. I got to be very good
at hiding the truth. Sometimes I fooled them with mumbo-jumbo
such as made-up Latin words, and would then clam up tight again. AP 265

So, my visitors, you who come to learn my secrets,
take note that I can hide behind words. I'm well versed in the art of
rhetoric - so keep away. AP 265

[ovyyus]

Thanks daxwc, was just about to post it :)

[ruggerodk]

AP - XXXIV:
"My visitors included supporters from the highest ranks, but with them too came base parasites. Some pretended that my secrets were already common knowledge, probably hoping that in this way I would be tricked into delivering my artistry into their greedy hands. But I would often answer them back as if I was a mumbling shepherd. They got no word of truth from me. I got to be very good at hiding the truth."

The truth in this context, meaning "JB's secret principle". He didn't disclose a word. I see him beeing properly protective.

Rhetoric (Wiki):
"Rhetoric flourished in ancient Greece as a subject of formal study and a culture of performance.[1] Its most well-known definition came from Aristotle, who called it "the art of finding [seeing] the available means of persuasion"[2] More simply, rhetoric includes the study and the use of language with persuasive effect, but definitions abound."
"From ancient Greece to the late 19th Century, it was a central part of Western education, filling the need to train public speakers and writers to move audiences to action with arguments."
"Public relations, lobbying, law, marketing, professional and technical writing, and advertising are modern professions that employ rhetorical practitioners."
"Plato defines rhetoric as the persuasion of ignorant masses within the courts and assemblies.[14] Rhetoric, in Plato’s opinion, is merely a form of flattery and functions similarly to cookery, which masks the undesirability of unhealthy food by making it taste good. "

Most people working in PR, politicians and lawyers would most definately say, that persuasion is not the same as lying...;-)