Hello Cheap Energy, Hello Brave New World

[jim_mich]

Hmmmm... (nickel and hydrogen converted to copper using catalyst produces heat output)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2 ... new-world/

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Maybe lead to gold with heat output is next??? :))

[getterdone]

Hi Jim, I ve been reading about cold fusion in a book called forbiden science, as you know , this is not the first eureka when it comes to cold fusion. What amazes me is how quickly the skeptics can publicly say it's a freud. or that the reserchers are delusional, without realy giving it the benefit of a doubt. I hope the test prove to be right, somehow these great discoveries seem to fade away after a while, even when they're made at the university level.
What chance would we have if we ever got a wheel turning on it's own

Leo

[nicbordeaux]

Jim, you are on the right track. A marvelous new invention has been supressed by jailing the inventor (I'd guess an ex-hedge fund manager) : http://uk.news.yahoo.com/man-jailed-aft ... gold-.html

[Grimer]

... the skeptics can publicly say it's a freud...

Sigmund or Clement?

[Ealadha]

What chance would we have if we ever got a wheel turning on it's own

When the world runs out of oil , then is the time .

[AB Hammer]

Ealadha

Then it is to late. SOL

Get the wheel. Make as many copies as possible. Have your friends help and show it as often as possible. Put it all over the internet etc. Like I have said in the past. When you get the wheel, then the real work starts. You have only just begun.

[Grimer]

Can't agree.

Providing one doesn't do a Bessler and hug it to one's chest hoping to make money by patenting then once one has the wheel it's downhill all the way.

It helps of course if one understands how and why it works.

"Get the wheel. Make as many copies as possible. Have your friends help and show it as often as possible. Put it all over the internet etc."

Yes indeed - but I can't see much difficulty in that. Within a week it will be all over the Internet. I think the expression is "going viral".

[nicbordeaux]

Hoping it's right but the whole thing sounds like electrolytic reaction, which I do for once have some knowledge about. Apparantly, the device requires a special fuel sandwich, not just nickel. If it's real, that makes it easy to control supply and manipulate prices of the fuel. So it's not going to be free energy under any circumstances.

At some point I'd like to look into anode/cathode of alloys of identical materials but differring proportions. After depletion of a given amount of material, swap cathode to anode and vv.

FWIW used to use a small home made plating bath run off a almost dead 12 v car battery. Amp regulation by light bulbs in a holder (you have 5 different bulbs and the number and the order in which they are in regulates). The thing did get warm. And the battery never needed changing. Only maintenance was to check the ph from time to time and add a bit of acid if necessary.

[daanopperman]

Nic ,
If you can get hold of a Pt catilytic converter from a junk yard you can convert H gas from electrolysis to a incredible lot of heat in seconds , stick the converter in a pipe with water on the outside in a bigger pipe and flow minute amounts of H through .

[Wubbly]

Cold Fusion video by Dr Eugene Mallove - 15 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y98YwJ2GEE

[Art]

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The next hot fusion containment experiment ITER (International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor ) due to come onstream in France by 2020 is budgeted at $20 Billion (twice the price of the Large Hadron Collider used to investigate the Higgs) .

With this type of money at stake the idea of unbiased science as a lofty objective goes out the window IMO .
That kind of money would more than cover an MIB’s expense account , not to mention the travelling expenses for the odd ‘Hitman’ by the more unscrupulous elements (which is possibly what happened to Dr. Mallove).

That $20 Billion is more than likely just the tip of the iceberg of all the subsidiary streams of money involved in ‘big science ’ and ‘big energy’ .

Take care everybody ! : )