Free Energy Chain Drive Gravity Machine Open Source Project Launched
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Free Energy Chain Drive Gravity Machine Open Source Project
There is a new post on PESWIKI today's headline news about a free energy gravity chain drive machine. It is supposed to be open sourced and the guy tells Sterling they have several replicas and advanced models.
here is a link: http://pesn.com/2012/01/05/9602001_Free ... _Launched/
I have attached the drawing from the website.
Personally, I think this is a joke / scam. We have seen many of simlar designs over the centuries and in the history of unworkable PM devices. If the guy really had it working and was open sourcing it, there would be a video / real picture.
Preston
here is a link: http://pesn.com/2012/01/05/9602001_Free ... _Launched/
I have attached the drawing from the website.
Personally, I think this is a joke / scam. We have seen many of simlar designs over the centuries and in the history of unworkable PM devices. If the guy really had it working and was open sourcing it, there would be a video / real picture.
Preston
This is obviously Murilo's avalanche drive,. And we know that Murilo keeps claiming that it works. And we know that Murilo attempted to build it, but so far has not been able to get it to work. And we know why it doesn't work. But of course Murilo will claim otherwise. Anyone that doesn't understand why this will not work might think that because it obviously 'looks' like it should work they might just assume that it does actually work.
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Jim, I don't think Murilo claims that it actually works, rather he claims that no one can prove to him that it won't work. Therefore Murilo can only prove to himself why it can't work, but I don't think that's what he wants. I think Murilo is blinded by sweet, sweet love... until death do they part :)jim_mich wrote:This is obviously Murilo's avalanche drive,. And we know that Murilo keeps claiming that it works...
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I have stared at this design time and time again and it looks impressive, but what I think lets this concept down is the strut that magically appears and disappears to keep the ascending weights spaced.
I can't envisage how this could be set up.
Kas
I can't envisage how this could be set up.
Kas
“We have no right to assume that any physical laws exist, or if they have existed up until now, that they will continue to exist in a similar manner in the future.�
Quote By Max Planck father of Quantum physics 1858 - 1947
Quote By Max Planck father of Quantum physics 1858 - 1947
Murilo solved that part nicely. At the bottom imagine the link pivots from its leading right hand side and gravity causes it to fall/drop down thus latching the weights into their expanded spacing. Then at the top gravity again causes the link to fall down but this time it unlatches and lets the weight move closer together as they fall on the left side.KAS wrote:but what I think lets this concept down is the strut that magically appears and disappears to keep the ascending weights spaced.
I can't envisage how this could be set up.
(I could have spend maybe another five or six hours to write additional visual basic code to animate/draw the link in the unlatched position, but it would have made the drawing more complex.)
Bill, I think you're right.Bill wrote:I think Murilo is blinded by sweet, sweet love... until death do they part :)
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Where's Murilo ?
Edit : Preston, that's a nice gif animation as your avatar. I've tried it and it don't work. Except as a gif. ;-)
Maybe like with the Avalanche drive we could have a category for "Working Overunity gif. shows 10 x OU !!!" That would beat that Sterling wossisname site by a mile. 100 000 hits a day.
Edit : Preston, that's a nice gif animation as your avatar. I've tried it and it don't work. Except as a gif. ;-)
Maybe like with the Avalanche drive we could have a category for "Working Overunity gif. shows 10 x OU !!!" That would beat that Sterling wossisname site by a mile. 100 000 hits a day.
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If there is a separate track that moves faster it can push a weight up by the triangle. It probably won't work just sharing how I see it could be improved.
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Hello guys,ovyyus wrote:Jim, I don't think Murilo claims that it actually works, rather he claims that no one can prove to him that it won't work. Therefore Murilo can only prove to himself why it can't work, but I don't think that's what he wants. I think Murilo is blinded by sweet, sweet love... until death do they part :)jim_mich wrote:This is obviously Murilo's avalanche drive,. And we know that Murilo keeps claiming that it works...
I'm here!
(the matter shows a draw that is not mine and is not completed.)
Some other text has been sent to an Alex' previous thread here at BW.
Nothing has changed and ANY serious and HONEST help will be welcome!
Hope that all of you will be alive to see and finally understand what I deal and love!
Take care!
M
PS: to avoid any mistake, I send a details of my avalanchedrive.
PS2, edition: if we find any problem it will be mechanic problems, NOT of conception!
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Question posed to Murilo from Sterling Allan.
Now Sterling wants some 'independent' verification/opinion of claims about a related concept.
The 'inventor/businessman' sure made some claims that Sterling has quoted.PesWiki.com re: chain drive forum wrote:
Hi Murilo,
I'd be curious to hear from you about this story we posted today and linked later to your work that we were informed about after publishing our story.
http://pesn.com/2012/01/05/9602001_Free ... _Launched/
Do you know of any successful replications?
What are your thoughts about the concept at this point? Viable?
Any tips about how to get a working system?
Thanks
| Sterling D. Allan, CEO
| (Pure Energy Systems) PES Network, Inc.
| http://PESWiki.com
Now Sterling wants some 'independent' verification/opinion of claims about a related concept.
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I always find these "impossible" devices interesting.
How to simply explain why they won't work in terms that people will easily grasp is always a bit of a challenge.
It seems to me that the two sides are equivalent to two tubes of fluid of different width. Without any need to go into the maths of the situation common experience tells us that the water in the fatter tube will not push up the water in the thinner tube.
The .gif in the first post makes the difference in width of the two tubes even more apparent.
I hopes this helps Murilo but I doubt if it will. I have every sympathy with him since I sometimes suffer from the same syndrome myself.
How to simply explain why they won't work in terms that people will easily grasp is always a bit of a challenge.
It seems to me that the two sides are equivalent to two tubes of fluid of different width. Without any need to go into the maths of the situation common experience tells us that the water in the fatter tube will not push up the water in the thinner tube.
The .gif in the first post makes the difference in width of the two tubes even more apparent.
I hopes this helps Murilo but I doubt if it will. I have every sympathy with him since I sometimes suffer from the same syndrome myself.
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Grimer,
for sure, we are 'brother in the syndrome'... 8| Thanks!
Those communicant tubes with liquid don't fit the right model for the project.
The pressure of a liquid column is equally distributed all around, in all directions, while a free solid column offers the possibility of a punctual apply.
In bellow I send another draw for the under wheel, for the case that Jim will come again with his jargon arguments.
Best!
M
for sure, we are 'brother in the syndrome'... 8| Thanks!
Those communicant tubes with liquid don't fit the right model for the project.
The pressure of a liquid column is equally distributed all around, in all directions, while a free solid column offers the possibility of a punctual apply.
In bellow I send another draw for the under wheel, for the case that Jim will come again with his jargon arguments.
Best!
M
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That will be your lesson hard learned. Love is a good teacher.Murilo wrote:PS2, edition: if we find any problem it will be mechanic problems, NOT of conception!
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Murilo wrote:
PS2, edition: if we find any problem it will be mechanic problems, NOT of conception!
ovyyus said: That will be your lesson hard learned. Love is a good teacher.
My scars have scars... at least 50% of my armature's weight is due to pure welding... eventually holes in this armature are welcome for some ventilation...
Love is not a good teacher... LOVE is a master teacher... I hope you and others may truly know what is this as self experiments.
Best!
M
PS2, edition: if we find any problem it will be mechanic problems, NOT of conception!
ovyyus said: That will be your lesson hard learned. Love is a good teacher.
My scars have scars... at least 50% of my armature's weight is due to pure welding... eventually holes in this armature are welcome for some ventilation...
Love is not a good teacher... LOVE is a master teacher... I hope you and others may truly know what is this as self experiments.
Best!
M
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Murillo I find it disgracefull you keep poluting other peoples threads with your deluded nonsense. You have a misguided view on leverage, as is shown by the years you have spent on a design most 15 year old physics students could understand.
If you want to tell me to "Take a pill", then do it on my or your thread, not on Helloha's thread. How many threads have you turned into a side show? It is you that appears to have been eating those special mushrooms, my deluded and schizophrenic friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushroom
If you want to tell me to "Take a pill", then do it on my or your thread, not on Helloha's thread. How many threads have you turned into a side show? It is you that appears to have been eating those special mushrooms, my deluded and schizophrenic friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushroom
I think as you are a special case, you should seek out a local university or drug company, and offer them your services.Some users suffer from hallucinogen persisting perception disorder, although this is uncommon........There have been reports of such disturbances lasting months or years.
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hm?!... 8|
oh... yep...
tell me about it...
(ops... calm down, dear... my talk about those supposed pills was merely figurative... sorry... 8(
( As the great master you think you are, you should be self trained in dealing with the poor smaller people and to not be disturbed by mass noise. This means that you must keep your high eagle travel, far above our mortal and cheap short chicken flights... º)>
oh... yep...
tell me about it...
(ops... calm down, dear... my talk about those supposed pills was merely figurative... sorry... 8(
( As the great master you think you are, you should be self trained in dealing with the poor smaller people and to not be disturbed by mass noise. This means that you must keep your high eagle travel, far above our mortal and cheap short chicken flights... º)>