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Daz are most viewers better at analyzing life forms or non-living objects? Meaning a task where one focuses on Bessler life and his secret would bring better results than the ones we got for the wheel.Move to the optimum location/s to sketch and to Describe and sketch in full detail the interior mechanisms in Johann Bessler's first machine which was exhibited in Gera, Germany on 6th June1712.
The viewer could go to any point in the life forms past - but if its not off target - for example I believe the target in this project was the machine and not the life form - although life form data can in this case be relevant - its not really the focus of the target.So Daz or Marv, when your are given a date as the target and place, is the viewer there only on that date or can the viewer float anywhere in the life form’s past life?
Right and wrong!As far as I know remote viewing isn't much different than most other paranormal disciplines, though some remote viewers try to claim it is, it only really is in labels.
Partly right as it can stop this - but primarily it helps keep the viewer blind to the target.The reason a remote viewer is only given a number instead of any real information regarding the target is to keep their mind from interfering with any information they think they might be getting.
Not at all - all remote viewers bring their interests and life skills to the party - some are better at things than others. You may have one viewer who is good at people, and another who is good at structures. We all have strengths and weaknesses. I for example am not that hot on targets that involve water - possibly due to a life long fear of water and not being able to swim. Now an idea and perfect remoet viewing team would combine:Daz are most viewers better at analysing life forms or non-living objects? Meaning a task where one focuses on Bessler life and his secret would bring better results than the ones we got for the wheel.
Daz,dazsmtih wrote:Hi,
Guys, my name is Daz smith.
I was the project manager for this project and can also answer any questions that you may have.
All the best..
Daz
People only will see what they wish to see. I don’t agree they surrounded the wheel. Jim both reports (daz’s and JC website) are full of chemical reactions, fluids and devices. You can say that's not what I wanted, it is something else in his life, but very much so that is what the wheel could be.I have read the remote viewing document and it seemed to focus on many things that surrounded Bessler's wheel. In that respect it seems like the session was a success.
But what would be really really helpful would be to get a peek inside the wheel and learn about the mechanism. I think deep down this was what John Collins was hoping/wishing for.
This sounds like a description of Karl's massive water feature which was being constructed around the time Bessler was displaying his wheel at Weissenstein Castle. IMO, Karl's involvement with Bessler may have been largely in pursuit of a way to power his grand water feature project and Bessler would probably have been desperately keen to sell Karl his wheel as a means to that end. In the end Karl obviously thought the wheel was impractical for that purpose.Marv wrote:Target appears to be a structure or object close to or containing water. A life form is involved in a downward momentum. Impressions were gained of chutes and a turbine, all closely involved with water or its flow. The structure is perceived to be large, with steps leading up to a high vantage point.
Once again, Karl's massive water feature comes to mind - water plowing downwards from an elevated source as it was periodically released down the giant stone steps from a massive metal and stone monument summit. I've attached an engraving of the castle and overlooking water feature. Also, more info and pictures here http://www.pbase.com/tineke/kassel_herculesMarv wrote:A piston‐like movement was perceived, as well as the sense of slow and highly tensile structural movement ( a bridge, raising).
The structure is operational, metallic and stone, and mechanized. Water was perceived as plowing downwards from an elevated source. A large spherical structure was perceived containing a liquid. Hexagonal concrete ‘do‐nuts’ were also perceived; structural support, perhaps.
Why don't yous RV the keenie wheel !jim_mich wrote:
Bessler's wheel mechanism is what interests most forum members. Bessler kept the mechanism hidden from people's view, enclosed inside his wheel. Thus the mechanism was hidden by wooden boards or waxed canvas, in the dark, inside his wheel, during most of its existence. ]
To be honest the numbers dont have any value other than 'housekkeping' they allow you to assign a name to a project that doesn't tell anyone what it is a reference. I usually now just use the date of the day i set the target so today would be 2101 - 2012.Im still confused about the numbers being used to point to the target.
If I make a case and give it a number, and someone else puts together a case and also gives it the same number, you may be able to focus on one or the other, or both. A combination of numbers can be coded to mean anything, or it can be just a number in a file.
All I can offer is - we dont know how it works it just does. $20M and 20 years couldn't work out the mechanism - the most likely candidate is quantum psychics - and that everything in the universe is connected and can exchange information. But we dont know how it works.What differentiates the numbers, and how does that number actually point to an object, rather than just being a random/sequential number that, lets face it, doesn't actually mean "Besslers wheel in 1717 Gera"?
Do the remote viewers have to go and remote view the file first?
Jim, remote viewing could give substantial information on a project like this. To be honest it would need through and long term work, multiple re-taskings and alot of research by the client and the project coordinator - working together. The viewers of course would all be blind throughout.Bessler's wheel mechanism is what interests most forum members. Bessler kept the mechanism hidden from people's view, enclosed inside his wheel. Thus the mechanism was hidden by wooden boards or waxed canvas, in the dark, inside his wheel, during most of its existence. My question is, How effective might remote viewing be of past objects that spent most of their existence hidden in the dark and known to only a couple people?
I believe they did a good job. it could have been better but you see even after 30 = years of research on RV, we still dont know how it works - I believ that as science show, the experimneters and watchers are part of the experiment - Its my belief that the tasker is key to the rv process and that isnt some hidden way we follow what the tasker wants to know - in the best rv success cases maybe the tasker/client has as solid opinion that drives the rv data - as I said, we dont know - its all learning and we are the first to admit its not perfect, it has flaws, we aren't always accurate - but it does work. I for example work with a group that works with the U.S. police on pretty much every major missing persons case in the U.S. and beyond - we have 'helped' in finding over 27 people using this skill as a last resort tool.I have read the remote viewing document and it seemed to focus on many things that surrounded Bessler's wheel. In that respect it seems like the session was a success.
It would be very possible to do - but you'd never be able to verify if the remote veining data were real and accurate or not, because there is no existing feedback to confirm this. And bearing in mind the accuracy of different remote viewers this may be hard to quantify. For example myself - I'm approx 70-90%+ accurate 80%+ of the time - things like this because of the lack of feedback would have to be considered into the equation. Even I have misses and bad days about 1,2 in every 100 targets are complete misses.Is remote viewing ever able to narrow in on something very specific, such as details of a certain mechanism hidden in the dark interior of an enclosure in a certain place at a certain time in the far distant past, which mechanism was only known to two people? Would this be an impossible task?
mmm I dont know - im know and am involved in many different groups - some have cross-over people but hardly any. so its hard to say - lumped altogether Id say about 40ish.Daz, how many remote viewers do you have at your deposal presently?
in what context - where?Daz, what does PR and PH stand for?
