The number of times you think you solved it, .......its funny
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The number of times you think you solved it, .......its funn
I think I finally got it, yes this one will work I just know it....
and then....
Damn I didn't think if that! lol
Really teaches you not to get to excited about any idea you get huh?
And you know what I still have a design were "I think I got it!" but I know better then to endulge too much hehe
Good luck everyone,
Tausen
and then....
Damn I didn't think if that! lol
Really teaches you not to get to excited about any idea you get huh?
And you know what I still have a design were "I think I got it!" but I know better then to endulge too much hehe
Good luck everyone,
Tausen
re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
Yes...I know what you mean. All week I've been wanting to say "I got it" but I restrain myself from doing it. I don't know why the mind insists on going there and wasting cycles thinking of what to do once it works, instead of just kicking in that extra bit to complete the dang thing with a working model. :-)
re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
Bessler Board is alive & well as long as we have members who occassionally say "I've got it". Dang, I've said it myself once or twice & I just might say it now for the hell of it.
No harm done to get a bit of air under the feet. The reality of the build soon sets in. Good luck !
No harm done to get a bit of air under the feet. The reality of the build soon sets in. Good luck !
re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
Haha,
I don't get excited about my ideas anymore, the next one is just another idea.....and probably another failure.
"Hold on...........that's it, this is it....
(then an element of deja vu sets in)
Hey, didn't I try something like this two years ago?"
I don't get excited about my ideas anymore, the next one is just another idea.....and probably another failure.
"Hold on...........that's it, this is it....
(then an element of deja vu sets in)
Hey, didn't I try something like this two years ago?"
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re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
Did I start this?!?! LOL :*) sorry guys....I probably should have been more restrained in the announcement-seeing as the idea is not even tested yet...
You just get so exited, you know? Then the blinders go on, seeing reactions as one way when all reaction go both ways...
You just get so exited, you know? Then the blinders go on, seeing reactions as one way when all reaction go both ways...
I hope to see something work soon-by someone!!
All hail Mighty Mouse! (Just don't get me angry!)
All hail Mighty Mouse! (Just don't get me angry!)
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re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
There have been cases in the history of science wherein the researcher wanted so badly to make a breakthrough that he actually started to hallucinate the results! Of course, in such cases independent replication of the device / results are never forthcoming.
It is for this reason that I instinctively distrust any device which produces some tiny, difficult to measure physical effect. I am only interested in GROSS physical effects. If and when I (or you) get a working Bessler wheel...then you will know it's the real thing. It will accelerate smoothly and robustly from a standstill and will maintain its rotation until "forcefully" stopped. You will not be wondering IF you've got it.
I've had many "eureka!" moments over the decades. ALL were eventually short-circuited by later computational results or by a failed construction. Do I still get such moments? Of course...and thank God for them. They show that my brain, adrenals, and nervous system are still functioning more or less properly. Do I distrust such moments? Yes...usually about 24 hours later as my "high" starts to wear off.
You know, sometimes I think inventing, like shopping, has a kind of addictive quality to it. Maybe the eureka moments we experience jack up the levels of endorphins in our brains and these actually act like morphine. I found in my youth that when I was in such a euphoric state that I could work non-stop for hours without eating or sleeping. Sometimes I found myself unconsciously delaying the completion of a construction or its testing so that I could bask in the glow of the euphoria longer. Unfortunately, failure would quickly bring me down to planet earth and the only way to combat the ensuing depression was to immediately begin comtemplating my next assault on the problem of achieving PM. It's was a weird way to live, but I kind of liked it.
Now that I'm older and in poorer health, I no longer have such extreme euphoria over a new idea, but I can still get very enthusiastic about a design and want to analyze / build it at my earliest convenience...
ken
It is for this reason that I instinctively distrust any device which produces some tiny, difficult to measure physical effect. I am only interested in GROSS physical effects. If and when I (or you) get a working Bessler wheel...then you will know it's the real thing. It will accelerate smoothly and robustly from a standstill and will maintain its rotation until "forcefully" stopped. You will not be wondering IF you've got it.
I've had many "eureka!" moments over the decades. ALL were eventually short-circuited by later computational results or by a failed construction. Do I still get such moments? Of course...and thank God for them. They show that my brain, adrenals, and nervous system are still functioning more or less properly. Do I distrust such moments? Yes...usually about 24 hours later as my "high" starts to wear off.
You know, sometimes I think inventing, like shopping, has a kind of addictive quality to it. Maybe the eureka moments we experience jack up the levels of endorphins in our brains and these actually act like morphine. I found in my youth that when I was in such a euphoric state that I could work non-stop for hours without eating or sleeping. Sometimes I found myself unconsciously delaying the completion of a construction or its testing so that I could bask in the glow of the euphoria longer. Unfortunately, failure would quickly bring me down to planet earth and the only way to combat the ensuing depression was to immediately begin comtemplating my next assault on the problem of achieving PM. It's was a weird way to live, but I kind of liked it.
Now that I'm older and in poorer health, I no longer have such extreme euphoria over a new idea, but I can still get very enthusiastic about a design and want to analyze / build it at my earliest convenience...
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
This has nothing to do with the Gravity Engine.
Other things I have thought of:
1. A machine to tap the power of air rising in water, (something to finish later.)It should work.
2. I was a spray painter at one time. I thought of a way to use a paint tank to pump the paint up into the roller. I could not think of how to get it through the roller to the outside. That must have been over 20 years ago and yes, I know it is on the market. I lost that one.
3. A missile, to search and destroy a helicopter.
4. Artificial limbs, I call it the copycat. It uses the electrical impulses going to the good limb and delivers the same to the artificial limb with a delay, such as for walking.
5. A one arm clock and yes, you can still tell the time. Good for teaching young children to tell time. I have the only one that I know of?
6. A bat and ball set. The bat is a netted affair, so as not to have to chase the ball if it had been hit. It would be captured in the net. This could still be done.
7. A way to reconnect the spinal cord, partially of course. I would need to draw you a picture of this.
8. A cam and valve train design that will not allow valve float. This would allow for a higher RPM.
9. A design for a swine barn. One that would be used for finishing only.
10. Lately, someone used the words, ante gravity. I can remember were I was driving at the time but I do not remember anything about the method. It seemed plausible at the time. (2 or 3 minutes). Then the idea was gone.
ThatÂ’s all I can recall at this time.
Some more things:
11. Artificial heart. It would be held in place by two fastening systems to the chest bone and it can be charged throw these connections. The artificial heart has a problem with its battery weight, so this would elevate the problem and keep it in place.. The heart could also have an oxygen censer in it, so as to speed up the heart when the body needs more oxygen. ( I do not know anything about the connection between the heart and lungs.) Someting to look into.
12. If a person is on kidney dialyses, They would be lucky if their partner has the same blood type, that way they could be hooked up together during their sleep and the good kidneys would do the job for both, thus saving the person going to he hospital three times a week. (Just a thought.)
13. At one time, my friends would use thir lighters to open the beer bottle caps and also at times, loose the lighter. I thought that a personalized holder could be made to both hold the lighter and have a built in opener in the bottom. I designed one and told a lawyer about the idea, and when I returned to the west, I found that it was already on the market. I had the only lighter-opener combination, east of Winnipeg. (Someone made a living on that one.)
The mind and body, use it, or loose it.
Darrell
PS I am sure I will hear from someone this time. Please be kind.
PSS Always, have a pen and paper with you when you go to bed!!
Other things I have thought of:
1. A machine to tap the power of air rising in water, (something to finish later.)It should work.
2. I was a spray painter at one time. I thought of a way to use a paint tank to pump the paint up into the roller. I could not think of how to get it through the roller to the outside. That must have been over 20 years ago and yes, I know it is on the market. I lost that one.
3. A missile, to search and destroy a helicopter.
4. Artificial limbs, I call it the copycat. It uses the electrical impulses going to the good limb and delivers the same to the artificial limb with a delay, such as for walking.
5. A one arm clock and yes, you can still tell the time. Good for teaching young children to tell time. I have the only one that I know of?
6. A bat and ball set. The bat is a netted affair, so as not to have to chase the ball if it had been hit. It would be captured in the net. This could still be done.
7. A way to reconnect the spinal cord, partially of course. I would need to draw you a picture of this.
8. A cam and valve train design that will not allow valve float. This would allow for a higher RPM.
9. A design for a swine barn. One that would be used for finishing only.
10. Lately, someone used the words, ante gravity. I can remember were I was driving at the time but I do not remember anything about the method. It seemed plausible at the time. (2 or 3 minutes). Then the idea was gone.
ThatÂ’s all I can recall at this time.
Some more things:
11. Artificial heart. It would be held in place by two fastening systems to the chest bone and it can be charged throw these connections. The artificial heart has a problem with its battery weight, so this would elevate the problem and keep it in place.. The heart could also have an oxygen censer in it, so as to speed up the heart when the body needs more oxygen. ( I do not know anything about the connection between the heart and lungs.) Someting to look into.
12. If a person is on kidney dialyses, They would be lucky if their partner has the same blood type, that way they could be hooked up together during their sleep and the good kidneys would do the job for both, thus saving the person going to he hospital three times a week. (Just a thought.)
13. At one time, my friends would use thir lighters to open the beer bottle caps and also at times, loose the lighter. I thought that a personalized holder could be made to both hold the lighter and have a built in opener in the bottom. I designed one and told a lawyer about the idea, and when I returned to the west, I found that it was already on the market. I had the only lighter-opener combination, east of Winnipeg. (Someone made a living on that one.)
The mind and body, use it, or loose it.
Darrell
PS I am sure I will hear from someone this time. Please be kind.
PSS Always, have a pen and paper with you when you go to bed!!
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re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
Don't give up the day job!3. A missile, to search and destroy a helicopter.
4. Artificial limbs, I call it the copycat. It uses the electrical impulses going to the good limb and delivers the same to the artificial limb with a delay, such as for walking....
7. A way to reconnect the spinal cord, partially of course.
Stick to welding.
Hmmm, ........tomorrow I'll think I'll invent warp drive and go to Mars?
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re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
Alrrrrrrright coylo could I ride along and auntie gravity too that would be uncle gravitys ole lady.Too much the magic bus.Hmmm, ........tomorrow I'll think I'll invent warp drive and go to Mars?
Work with gravity and gravity will work for you.There are more than two sides to a wheel.
re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
coylo,
I do not know about warp drive but I like thinking about underwater propulsion and fast submarines.
I like to keep an open mind, in many areas.
Darrell
I do not know about warp drive but I like thinking about underwater propulsion and fast submarines.
I like to keep an open mind, in many areas.
Darrell
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re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
Hey Pete, you asked Darrell...
Darrell responded...Darrell, Darrell, Darrell, Its all over, you can keep the money but please return my goods, my address is on the NDA.
Just curious, has Darrell arranged to return your computer and camera yet? I'd really like to congratulate him on doing at least one thing right - if he has.I have every intention to return what is due.
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and i thought you wer just a hit and run ,kinda guy????VANDUGEGS wrote:coylo,
I do not know about warp drive but I like thinking about underwater propulsion and fast subs.
I like to keep an open mind, in many areas.
Darrell
a fast sub......do you get fries with that.........?
cheesey weiners......ring a bell or
can you send me a $100.00 bucks to help with the "provisional patent"????? or it turns 993 rpm,,,,,....... dribble....poppycock
re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
I enjoyed your post Ken, as a matter of fact I could have written it myself .Sometimes I found myself unconsciously delaying the completion of a construction or its testing so that I could bask in the glow of the euphoria longer.
That quote above made me smile as I have a machine half built in my workshop , just a little more work and it will be done , yet somehow I procrastinate because I'm afraid that it will end up as just another failure. But as of now I still have hope.
Graham.
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re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
Hi, Graham
I have found from past experience that one is better to move as quickly as possible to complete one's project. Then you can get your disappointment over with as soon as possible and move on to the next idea. Yes, it's painful, but it toughens one up and gets them moving in different and, hopefully, more productive directions.
ken
P.S. Good luck with your design...
I have found from past experience that one is better to move as quickly as possible to complete one's project. Then you can get your disappointment over with as soon as possible and move on to the next idea. Yes, it's painful, but it toughens one up and gets them moving in different and, hopefully, more productive directions.
ken
P.S. Good luck with your design...
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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re: The number of times you think you solved it, .......its
I tried to find a suitable place to put this without starting a new thread. Since this is partially for Ken and Jonathan I thought I'd put it here. I did post it on Kens thread in community but nothing happened.
[note from Scott: Sorry about that! There was a bug introduced by the half-baked reputation system, now fixed.]
I don't think an object gains mass the faster it travels. I never have and I still don't. I'd like to see some experimental evidence to show the contrary. It gains potential to be sure.
I think I have the archilles heel to this physics notion, by way of a mathematical model. If this idea is true, then it actually proves the possibility of free energy. I actually know of a few models that pit different concepts against each other. Anyway heres the idea of the model.
First of all we have a wheel. We are only going to use half of the wheel from the 12 to the 6 position. A single weight begins at the 12. This wheel is going to have a special gear system coupled to it, there are a few different ways we can do this. For sake of simplicity we are going to have a horizontal platform that slides up and down on two collumns or pillars. We are going to completely ignore all frictions for this example. This platform is going to run just over the width of the wheel. At the bottom of the wheel is a peg. This peg is going to sit under the platform and when the wheel turns it is going to raise the platform upwards. The platform is going to travel the same vertical distance as the descending weight. The platform is going to be weightless for this edxperiment, or it can be said the platform and all objects on the platform are going to have a weight total equal to the descending weight. As you can see what we have in essence is a type of a flywheel. The descending weight on the wheel is going to travel the same vertical distance at all times as the rising platform. Now we are going to start this off with a push. If the idea that an object gains mass the faster it travels is true, then the weight on the descending side of the wheel is going to gain more mass than the rising weight on the platform because not only does it have the same vertical speed as the rising weight, but it has a faster overall speed because of its angular travel. Since, if this is true, the descending weight is gaining mass, it is also gaining weight, so we no longer have a simple flywheel but an overbalancing effect. All we need to do once the descending weight reaches the bottom is to transfere some of the gain from the descending weight over to the one that has risen so both are equal, and repeat the process.
[note from Scott: Sorry about that! There was a bug introduced by the half-baked reputation system, now fixed.]
I don't think an object gains mass the faster it travels. I never have and I still don't. I'd like to see some experimental evidence to show the contrary. It gains potential to be sure.
I think I have the archilles heel to this physics notion, by way of a mathematical model. If this idea is true, then it actually proves the possibility of free energy. I actually know of a few models that pit different concepts against each other. Anyway heres the idea of the model.
First of all we have a wheel. We are only going to use half of the wheel from the 12 to the 6 position. A single weight begins at the 12. This wheel is going to have a special gear system coupled to it, there are a few different ways we can do this. For sake of simplicity we are going to have a horizontal platform that slides up and down on two collumns or pillars. We are going to completely ignore all frictions for this example. This platform is going to run just over the width of the wheel. At the bottom of the wheel is a peg. This peg is going to sit under the platform and when the wheel turns it is going to raise the platform upwards. The platform is going to travel the same vertical distance as the descending weight. The platform is going to be weightless for this edxperiment, or it can be said the platform and all objects on the platform are going to have a weight total equal to the descending weight. As you can see what we have in essence is a type of a flywheel. The descending weight on the wheel is going to travel the same vertical distance at all times as the rising platform. Now we are going to start this off with a push. If the idea that an object gains mass the faster it travels is true, then the weight on the descending side of the wheel is going to gain more mass than the rising weight on the platform because not only does it have the same vertical speed as the rising weight, but it has a faster overall speed because of its angular travel. Since, if this is true, the descending weight is gaining mass, it is also gaining weight, so we no longer have a simple flywheel but an overbalancing effect. All we need to do once the descending weight reaches the bottom is to transfere some of the gain from the descending weight over to the one that has risen so both are equal, and repeat the process.