Real gravity engine can be made:But Not a Perpectual motion machine.
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re: Real gravity engine can be made:But Not a Perpectual mot
I think the only thing perpectual is this conversation.
re: Real gravity engine can be made:But Not a Perpectual mot
Not to mention circular.
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DearWubbly,the prototype of my engine invention discussed here could be my final year project.Wubbly wrote:A-man, before you try to spread the word of your micraculous discovery to all the world, you need to build your machine first and verify it actually works.
Just for your information,As discussed earlier,
My engine Is based on the regular laws of physics you read in books,use or see everyday.
If it does not work,it will prove the regular laws of physics absolutely wrong!
All the laws of physics used in my engine are already validated to be true!and all those theories are used in other devices
There are three types of theories which can be proposed by a scientist:
1)theories based on assumptions(assumptions made with doubtable reasons):May be wrong or right:need to be experimentally verified
2) theories based on well known and well established laws:Always right
3)Hybrid of 1st and 2nd type
My engine is based on 2nd type!
To prove my engine works I have to prove that my engine works on regular laws of physics!
Since my engine is based on regular concepts of physics,there is no doubt that it works!
To check the validity of my engine,you may check the basic analogous principle of operation of my engine which I have discussed in the 1st comment as well as some more in/on
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59145126@N ... hotostream
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re: Real gravity engine can be made:But Not a Perpectual mot
But A-man, You invented a new law of physics called "Impulse-energy". There is no known physics law of "Impulse-energy". It would be like inventing "momentum-energy". There is no known physics principle called "momentum-energy". There is momentum, and there is energy, but there is no physics principle called "momentum-energy".a-man wrote:...Since the concept I had explained on wiki and here works only on well known proved and daily used laws of physics and not on new theories ...
Another physics principle that you invented is "Gravity Amplification".
The known laws of physics do not recognize "gravity amplification" as a valid theory. You claim there are no new theories involved, yet you are creating new theories to explain your currently non-existing mechanism in your un-built machine.a-man wrote:gravity amplification : Additional gravitational energy stored in a descending body when gravity acts on it!
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People were always using "Impulse" in various machines or I say "Impulsive energy" in various machines.The problem is,not many gave the name "Impulsive energy".However the word Impulse is defined in physics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse_(physics)
To explain the concept,I needed to mention Impulsive energy.
If I say,I am taking the impulsive energy(using impulse) from gravity:I can say that I am using Gravitational energy.Gravitational amplification is similarly a name given/derived by me to a obvious process.
So the concepts / principles aren't new but were not defined in a proper standard.
For example,You write chemical names eg: 1,1 diamine tetrachloric Acid,terelyne,polyester. Before,scientists knew the properties and composition of these compounds but never named it before an international regular actors body/ institute called IUPAC developed a new chemical nomenclature system.
You cannot say,I use a chemical,involving so many carbon atoms,so many hydrogen atoms with this particular orientation with this many double bonds at these positions,which react with.......................
You need a simple nomenclature like for example "Polyester"
I would say I coined the appropriate names for the known phenomeneons.
A nomenclature is very important,it may be obvious or non obvious easily.
The types of nomenclature I have used derived/named/used are easy to understand/obvious.
The chemical name nomenclature is non obvious for common man but obvious for people knowing good basics of chemistry and IUPAC nomenclature.
So I have not created any new theories but I am giving correct nomenclature for the new theories to use in my described gravity engines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse_(physics)
To explain the concept,I needed to mention Impulsive energy.
If I say,I am taking the impulsive energy(using impulse) from gravity:I can say that I am using Gravitational energy.Gravitational amplification is similarly a name given/derived by me to a obvious process.
So the concepts / principles aren't new but were not defined in a proper standard.
For example,You write chemical names eg: 1,1 diamine tetrachloric Acid,terelyne,polyester. Before,scientists knew the properties and composition of these compounds but never named it before an international regular actors body/ institute called IUPAC developed a new chemical nomenclature system.
You cannot say,I use a chemical,involving so many carbon atoms,so many hydrogen atoms with this particular orientation with this many double bonds at these positions,which react with.......................
You need a simple nomenclature like for example "Polyester"
I would say I coined the appropriate names for the known phenomeneons.
A nomenclature is very important,it may be obvious or non obvious easily.
The types of nomenclature I have used derived/named/used are easy to understand/obvious.
The chemical name nomenclature is non obvious for common man but obvious for people knowing good basics of chemistry and IUPAC nomenclature.
So I have not created any new theories but I am giving correct nomenclature for the new theories to use in my described gravity engines.
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You have not seen/understood the analogous principle of my engine.I can only say that because of people like you who cant think out of box,because of idiots trying to attempt creating machines against Thermodynamics and because of cheaters,real inventors are suppressed!
It needs intelluctual people to understand!Sorry,unsatisfactory comment.
I have tried to explain my concept here in the first comment and on some more on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59145126@N ... otostream/)
(with a analog diagram) in as simple language as possible.
It seems that if you were born when rudolf diesel was 16 years of age,you would have told rudolf diesel that Diesel engines are impossible,you would have told wright brothers that flying machines are impossible.you would have told tv inventor Baird that TV Was impossible.
Can you explain why it can't work,technically?
I have heard many comments like this,on few websites on which I discussed my concept,which are useless and unscientific.
Definately you have not seen/understood my Flickr post as well as my first comment regarding analogous principle of my engine.
If you see and understand those two,you will be surprised.and remember,my engine only converts gravity in to useful power,it does not generate energy.
Please don't suppress very very few real inventors.
"Energy can never be destroyed nor created,but can be converted from one form to another."
I am NOT making energy from nothing.I am only converting energy!
And I spent few sleepless nights to make this challenging invention.
Believe me,there are only few real inventors including me.There are thousands of cheaters and idiots on the Internet.
It needs intelluctual people to understand!Sorry,unsatisfactory comment.
I have tried to explain my concept here in the first comment and on some more on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59145126@N ... otostream/)
(with a analog diagram) in as simple language as possible.
It seems that if you were born when rudolf diesel was 16 years of age,you would have told rudolf diesel that Diesel engines are impossible,you would have told wright brothers that flying machines are impossible.you would have told tv inventor Baird that TV Was impossible.
Can you explain why it can't work,technically?
I have heard many comments like this,on few websites on which I discussed my concept,which are useless and unscientific.
Definately you have not seen/understood my Flickr post as well as my first comment regarding analogous principle of my engine.
If you see and understand those two,you will be surprised.and remember,my engine only converts gravity in to useful power,it does not generate energy.
Please don't suppress very very few real inventors.
"Energy can never be destroyed nor created,but can be converted from one form to another."
I am NOT making energy from nothing.I am only converting energy!
And I spent few sleepless nights to make this challenging invention.
Believe me,there are only few real inventors including me.There are thousands of cheaters and idiots on the Internet.
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re: Real gravity engine can be made:But Not a Perpectual mot
Amen to thatThere are thousands of cheaters and idiots on the Internet.
certainly not pointed at you wubbly
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Thanks unbalanced for comments.
Let's make a greener world.I just found this website.
Hope few may find this website/project interesting:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/Chr ... own-series
http://www.ultimateenergyshowdown.com/
http://www.freespiritproductions.com/
Free energy does not mean that energy is free.It only means that fuel is available free of cost from nature.
I am trying to contact them through Facebook.
Let's make a greener world.I just found this website.
Hope few may find this website/project interesting:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/Chr ... own-series
http://www.ultimateenergyshowdown.com/
http://www.freespiritproductions.com/
Free energy does not mean that energy is free.It only means that fuel is available free of cost from nature.
I am trying to contact them through Facebook.
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re: Real gravity engine can be made:But Not a Perpectual mot
I borrowed this just because it seemed so right on the mark:
"The three Laws of Thermodynamics can be reduced to:
1. You can't win.
2. You can't break even.
3. You can't quit the game."
"The three Laws of Thermodynamics can be reduced to:
1. You can't win.
2. You can't break even.
3. You can't quit the game."
Ha Ha.....interesting thoughts!
Also Just wanted to invite everyone on,
https://www.facebook.com/truegravitymagneticengines
I just replied on,
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5141
Raj has made a very very interesting post.
I have also created two blogs:
1)
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/weblog.php?w=7
Or
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/trackback.php?e=145
AND
2)
http://blogs.scienceforums.net/realfree ... icengines/
Also Just wanted to invite everyone on,
https://www.facebook.com/truegravitymagneticengines
I just replied on,
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5141
Raj has made a very very interesting post.
I have also created two blogs:
1)
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/weblog.php?w=7
Or
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/trackback.php?e=145
AND
2)
http://blogs.scienceforums.net/realfree ... icengines/
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re: Real gravity engine can be made:But Not a Perpectual mot
I cannot imagine why nobody though on this before, including myself? It is so simple!...
re: Real gravity engine can be made:But Not a Perpectual mot
Another compressed air powered gravity wheel.
This is the same scam http://www.fuellesspower.com/6_Gravity2.htm
This is the same scam http://www.fuellesspower.com/6_Gravity2.htm
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Yes Path Devotee,That was my old idea/old invention.path_finder wrote:Dear Aman,
why so many detours?
http://www.innovationsforeveryone.com/C ... px?Id=7004
The new engine is more efficient.I was using compressed air before.
I am not using any compressed air now in my new engine.
It took lot of time to realise that compressing air is not required.
I am still thinking my engine to be more efficient.Everytime I improve my engine or make a more efficient new design,I discard my old idea.
Now,after knowing patent norms,I think it was my big mistake to leak out the diagram to public.It was highly sensitive.
Last edited by Aman on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:56 am, edited 2 times in total.
Science is the king,commerce and MBA are servants of mankind.True Gravity-magnetic powered engines are possible but they cannot be against 3 basic laws of thermodynamics and newton's laws of motion.