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iacob alex

I understand that English is not your first language, but note that you have taken considerable time and effort to post to this forum in order
to discuss your ideas.

Part of the English language is the punctuation...probably the most
difficult part.

We have been taught to read in a certain way, and the lack of line breaks is very confusing to the eye and brain.

It is most annoying to have to read each line of text several times to try
to grasp what you are saying.

The "discomfort" that we feel is enough to turn forum members away from
trying to read your posts.

Meet us halfway on this and just hit the "Return" key after each full stop.

I'm sure that would help us greatly.

Regards

Mick

[iacob alex]

...I agree,let's make the half way,hoping for a common sence behaviour on the topic stage.
Maybe,more than the real life,the virtual meetings are in the line of "Comediante!/Pope vs. Tragediante!!/Napoleon".As in the theater,we are living,between tragedy and comedy.Laughter is the relief!
All the Bests! / Alex

[iacob alex]

...of a black box,can be a provocative, stimulative and short manner to think about the unknown.
This time,the black box is supposed to have inside, a "wheel" or something like this.
We know the input(gravity) and the output (torque).
How about the "wheel"?
Here,it's a full place for guess...as this forum is predesigned to rediscover the Bessler's PM.
My opinion is to think big about this "wheel".
The first step can be to imagine,as a big radius mechanism,machine(as a Ferris Wheel,or better as an Aldo Costa large-scale one).
The second step is to make a big "cut" in the design:we need two spokes only.
The third step is to add,couple this one with a mechanically store-restore system(Watt pulsatory flywheel).
Thinking,dealing with the quote of this day...if I can picture it,you can understand it.
But...reflecting more, with regard to the charming,attractive game that you can play yourself, inside this black box ,now it's your round to stage on.
All the Bests! / Alex

[jim_mich]

So far your third step is where we fail. None (except maybe Bessler) have devised anything that can restore. But we keep searching!

[iacob alex]

Hi Jim!
Regarding the third step,take a look(but carefully,imagine the motion),at New! New Drafts!,fig.1(Gravity pulser) and fig.5(Gravity storage pumping).
You can see there a gearing with a Watt's type governor,that plays as a mechanical energy store-restore system.
All the Bests!/Alex

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iacob alex

I find your latest posts much more readable.

I thank you for your efforts.

regards

Mick

[iacob alex]

Hi !

Reading again the record of this topic (from 01/01/2007...),I must thank to people for their comments...firstly.

In that message ,I suggested to think aboutn our PM device ,as an "acceleration converter".

If we use "g" acceleration as an integral ( full value ),we can get it out (via impact )...but one time,only.

Our "dream machine" can be imagined as "a self-moving gravity crank doing work",or something like this...

All designs use the rule :weight -fulcrum-counterweight...intending an unbalance (a continuous torque difference on the same side of the fulcrum).

These kind of thinking implies to use a smaller part of the natural acceleration "g" ( alike an Atwood machine ,with a<<g ).

One aspect of a PM device can be conversion of the natural acceleration into a smaller one...but in a continuous and workable manner .

So,we have : in="g" , ex=a , in-ex="g" <<a

All the best! / Alex

[path_finder]

Dear jacob alex,
This is the reason why a horizontal wheel (or with a very low angle inclination) can be an excellent approach (the value of the external force being much more greater than the gravity force).

[iacob alex]

.....to be short:
-in= g (natural acceleration0
-black box(your proposal for a PM device )
-ex=a (usable acceleration...a<<g)

Newton stated:if you want action (m*a),you need (must play) acceleration.

If you need work,you must let it evolve freely (m*a*t ):give time for gravity fall.

Do you like checkgame (checkmate)?

Hi P_F!
Normally,any gravity unbalanced wheel has a greater sensibility on the horizontal line/surface.,than in a bearing...it's a plain,easy test.

A possible PM device works better rolling on a surface than in a bearing.

All the best! / Alex

[iacob alex]

.....concept can simplify our search for a "self" moving mechanical contrivance.
Let's take a look at :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box
So , the starting point is what we know and what we need :
-the input : we use two phenomena ( gravity and inertia ) , only !
-the output : we need a continuous / "self" working device , machine ( "something...) due to the input, only!
Now , the next point : the "black box" as a free space to use your imagination ( mind "lottery") ...
All the Best!/ Al_ex