Newton's suggestion...

[iacob alex]

...the only one,that he made,regarding the possibility of a PM,was that : "...if the rays of gravity may be stopped by reflecting or refracting...ye,if so a perpetuum mobile may be made of these two ways".

We know that Newton,was deeply involved about the problems of his time :the laws of the light.

After so much time,because his understanding of the general laws of physics,remains admirable useful,maybe we can apply his suggestion.

Let's say that,the "ray of gravity" ,can be a gravity impulse (p=m*a*t=m*g*t ),or a pulse wave of power,due to gravity free fall.

Then,a reflexive phenomenon ,can be a bouncing,jump-up motion.

The problem is to develop Newton's suggestion in some way (more than "Newton's Cradle"...).

All the Bests! / Alex

[iacob alex]

...can be discussed in many ways.

Reflexivity is the basic characteristic of energy:it travels invariable(as the light),or changes into another forms (heat,electric current...).

In gravity,if we release an elestic ball from a certain level,we have a fall ,and a reflexive bouncing...that imagined by Newton for the light ray(but,he never had this "toy" ...just as an illusory ).

Have we the toy,but not the illusory?

If we add a rod and a pivot to the elastic ball,we can play a reflexive pendulum ,a swinging motion on the same side of the bearing,if it hits at the bottom fall motion, a vertical rigid surface.

Inertia is a reflexive frame,where we play action=reaction.

We can stay "lazy" face to inertia,or we can play with it(we need acceleration).

Gravity is our infinite "raining source" with acceleration.

We are,as our dreaming ancestors ,on the banks of a river,or a sea shore...

If is possible to imagine a "special lever" ,with an effort> load...so to take out the "difference"...

Or if the "fall work" >"get back work"...

If the "pendulum ball work" >"bouncing back/jumping ball work"...

If we take into consideration an Atwood Machine with a Heavy Pulley...

If we consider the rotational inertia as an inertial "muscle"/temporary storage system...

Here are some parts of a possible puzzle...

All the Bests! / Alex

[iacob alex]

...to be short are refraction and reflection of a "gravity ray".

To refract is to break course of light.

To reflect is to throw back course of light.

Between two same points,these two phenomena manifest some differences...

If we can imagine the "gravity ray" ,this Newton's allegory(a description of one thing under image of another ) ,we can have a good starting point from a brilliant mental power.

All the Bests! / Alex

[iacob alex]

...can be illustrated,as a counterbalance leverege of "reflexion" (straight line trajectory) vs. "refraction" (curvilinear trajectory) in a gravity fall.

See "Falling Chimney..." topic.

A "reflexion" style fall(or jump-up...also) has a "g" acceleration,no more.

A "refraction" style fall in gravity,has a faster then "g" acceleration.

Here we have a difference...can we play this for our advantage?

All the Bests1 / Alex

[iacob alex]

.....the only one,that he made,regarding the possibility to start imaging a PM device,was that: "...if the rays of ....may be stopped...by reflecting or refracting '.

Newton was involved about the rays of light...tiny quanta of energy.

To reflect,is to cast back from a surface,to bounce a mass in gravity.

To refract,is to bend the trajectory of a falling mass in gravity,and here pay attention,to pass from one medium into another,in which the speed of propagation differs.

Generally speaking ,motion is the everlasting free "feed" of the Universe :you we have no power to create,but to transform only.

In a single word,the PM device may be "a kind of energy transformer"...

With a single mass,we can bounce only:no way to take out free power.

With two masses...we can play a different game.

Where there is no difference,there is only inertia:no disposition to action or motion.

All the best! / Alex

[path_finder]

Dear jacob alex,

if the rays of gravity may be stopped by reflecting or refracting

The gravity field modification is my highest quest, as explained earlier here:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... 3472#53472

[iacob alex]

Hi P_F

Gravity rays,focusing gravity...these are vague and useless binary group of words ,trying to express some phantomatic inspiration of mind.

But if we think allegorically, about any gravity fall as an incoming wave of motion/energy (cosmic power "grants"),or quanta of energy (to be in the line of "establishment" language) ...we can be as Sir Newton confessed "...as a child at the sea shore..."

Dreaming with open eyes ,looking at the incoming waves ,is an act of pure imagination about "pure energy":if we know to play light quanta ,why not to figure how to play momentum (m*v) ,due to gravity fall?!

You know that "Poetry comes nearer to vital truth than history" (Plato)

Maybe,Newton's suggestion about a PM device(refraction), was related
about passing of energy from one medium (gravity) into anither (inertia).

All the best! /Alex

[JuBragg]

For something that has never been satisfactorily explained, that is , gravity

http://milesmathis.com/updates.html

has some recent papers that point out the fallacies of current theories and one of his own that his math reconciles with known facts.

His gravity is charge, stacked spin photons, positive and negative and on a macro scale, how it is deflected within the Earth to account for the gravity anomalies as revealed by satellite maps.

Gravity is partially reversed by charge and there are several institutions working on it, see Rex Research files on gravity.

There are some grounds to believe that the huge triangular UFO's seen over USA mainly are black ops anti-gravity driven machines with small nuclear power packs at each corner producing extremely high charge.

Small anti gravity machines have been made for many years by amateur experimenters, using 50,000 plus volts, but not self contained yet.

I hope this can be of some help!

[iacob alex]

.....for us are relevant as an encouragement,more than an elucidation.

Ray of light is a common language.

Ray of gravity...hm...we have no proof to think so.

Maybe,gravitation is something more than the simple attraction between the massive bodies...every person can think "on the ground" (school teachings) and "underground" (a pesonal connection between the same school understandigs ).

In my opinion,we need no more than Archimedes,Newton,Galileo and evidently,some excerpts from the long history of PM search...

As I see this topic,PM device is a little bit more involved that the childish seesaw game :not a swinging,but a self-rotating pulsatory(only one arm) lever,due to the gravity fall and the in-out inertia energy storage !

All the best! / Alex

[Kirk]

I have not found evidence of gravity reduction with voltage.
I have found force from ionic wind.

[JuBragg]

Yes, ionic wind is the simplest way of using voltage to overcome gravity, not strictly altering gravity itself. The experiments I was thinking about use certain types of coil and high voltage, and others super cooled coils, but are not using ionic wind.

www.eskimo.com/~billb/freenrg/​antigrav.html

[JuBragg]

Sorry that link is dead, try

http://www.ssrsi.org/sr2/Transport/antigrav.htm

[Kirk]

but its not antigrav and very inefficient.
A propeller is far more efficient in thrust vs consumed energy.

[murilo]

Alex,
I NEED to tell you that I admire and appreciate a lot your capacity of find questions, doubts and your courage to think by yourself about wide stuffs!

This is great, rare and worthy to the forum, specially being you an engineer!

Congrats!
Best!
Murilo

[iacob alex]

.....about "gravity rays" can be considered as an useful hypothesis ,for a very large scale:celestial bodies as focusing the all spectrum of rays.

The proof?...some of them are shining (from admirable huge stars to modest scintillating tiny atoms ).

Relation between energy and matter is a mirror like one ,or waves-beach...as Newton poetically said long time ago :"...I feel myself as a child on a beach of this huge Ocean of unknown...."

Dear P_F,as you said,you intend to modify the gravity field :to focus as in a lens...hm ...you need a huge mass...and what for?

The gravity field is a flow/fall to a focusing point at a large scale,but irrotational, at a small scale:you can't play rotating wheel into a flowing water.

There seems to be a solution to collect an irrotational flow/fall:
-rotational means tangential component of "g"
-irrotational means radial component of "g"

There are some details about this subject in some older topics...

Dear Murillo:tks for your kindly words.
I am still obsessed with an old design as yours:if I will find a workable one ,that will my private present for you...

All the best! / Alex