Gravity is not a conservative force.

[Ken]

http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white

[Aman]

"COP >1" looks quiet strange and my below questions may this strange more realistic

How big is this universe.Universe has no boundary?
Even infinite boundry is also not possible.Becasue if there is any such boundry of universe,what is there outside the peripheral boundry of universe.
Is this about universe something related to violation of Quantum theory which says everything is Quantised?
Is this about universe hence something like violation of law of conservation?

Can anybody explain me this?

Can Stephan hawking explain this?

[Ken]

Aman,

As long as you consider Newtons guess as a LAW. you will be steered in circles by your questions and answers.

E=mc2 PROVES Newton was wrong.

So make your choice.

Newton, or Einstein.

It can't be both.

[KAS]

I like this forum but I can't ignore this guff anymore!

Could someone show me where Newton said "Energy cannot be created or destroyed"?

It was Einstein (remember E = MC^2 ) that regularly quoted this line.

So according to Ken, Einstein proved himself wrong!

What concerns me more is that there are a few members here that are being duped by his continuous nonsensical rants!

[murilo]

Murillo,

Very nice looking build.

Ken,
thanx so much for your view and consideration - at last!
Best!
M

haha, You do not need my pat on the back. You are obviously a creator and not a destroyer. And not in the box.

I have a question. What keep the weights apart on the ascending side?

Also why anyone would want to turn this design into a wheel is beyond comprehension. The design as it is would obviously create more power than a wheel design.

That would be backwards in the box thinking.

Ken, thanks for appreciation.

At sent detail draw you'll see to the locks that form triangles in all corners of the open rising side chain. While moving in expanded state, these triangles are the provisional assembling, with gravity help. 8)

Maybe, if there was lots of mysteries with me, this design and its release... maybe someone else would get truly interested. 8]

Best!
M

[murilo]

murilo,

The more I look at your build, the more impressed I am.

If the mechanism separating the weights and putting them back closer at the top doesn't take much power. This thing will run.

The mechanism would be the only thing that could stop it from working.

I would keep the operation of the mechanism confidential.

Also I am impressed because this is obviously not a copy of anything Bessler did.

Its all you dude!! Good job.

You can bet... not a copy of any other stuff... and doesn't belong to my person, it belongs to all!

Some others like it also:

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4797

Up to the point where my mind reach I assume that avalanchedrive will NOT only turn... It will speed!!!

Think about g acceleration and you will guess that a 'charge' will be indeed needed at that wheel's axle!

Best!
M
PS edition: BTW here is sent a wheel with 22 hooks. 8)

[Ken]

LOL@Kas,

Ok time is up.

Put down the glue.

[Ken]

Could someone show me where Newton said "Energy cannot be created or destroyed"?

You REALLY want me to teach you?

You lack a lot of understanding.

And why do you say Einstein proved himself wrong?

Stop sniffin the glue dude.

Mayer came up with the line, not Einstein.

[primemignonite]

"Energie kann nicht erzeugt, sondern nur von der einen Form in die andere umgewandelt werden."

By the trio of

-Julius v. Meyer
-James Joule, u.
-Hermann v. Helmholtz

the matter of this Vis-Viva contention bone was settled (provisionally) in years 1842-1847.

As roughly translated:

"Energy can not engender (procreate), rather only by one form into an other can it be changed."

And, as nicely Anglicized:

"Energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only be transformed from one form to another."

Had the Orffyrean Presence been present then, somewhat more would likely have been added.

[John Collins]

So good to hear from you James!

JC

[Ken]

HAHAH@myself.

I made a mis=statement. hahaha

I love it.

That is what happens when you are laughing so hard when posting.

I guess I should have proof read my post. hahaha

The law of conservation of energy was proven wrong by E=mc2

hahaha I even make myself laugh.

OOOPS.

[JuBragg]

murilo,
like your design, reminds me of one that used floats and a 'u' tube with a watertight gate at the bottom that did work for a while.

Just a thought, rather than a complicated locking system to keep the spacing on the upside, just have another chain and sprockets with the ratio the same as the ratio of the downside links to the upside on the same shafts as you already have.

I really can't see any problems with your design , but then I have three discarded machines in the shed, and a 4th almost ready to test;)

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi all,

The quote below is taken from my web site, and is based on my own personal observations, the Universe is the answer to what we seek here, its motion is due to gravity forces being converted into kinetic energy of the movement of the heavenly body’s! The truth is that gravity is not a conservative force, the truth is it is a regenerative force it is a constant force it is not conservative we used yesterdays gravity yesterday, we are now using todays gravity! take from it what you will it will replace its losses it is never ending! I said about the tides being created by gravity and showing gravity creating kinetic energy not conserving it, some people her are in denial, they have been brain washed. The out of balance wheel is only impossible due to its geometry not gravity, the force of gravity is there waiting to be used.

A word about Gravity, I class gravity as free energy, it is force created from mass and when this force is used to do work the mass remains the same and so does the force and it does not cost anything, it is the perfect energy input, OK it will cost money to built a device to tap it but if that device shows a profit after four years then there is your free energy, not as stupid as it sounds! so is gravity really a conservative force, no! it is a renewable energy source, I tend to call its use, free energy from gravity, which is closer to the truth. Most renewable energy's in use to day tend to have there source traced back to gravity, wind, tidal, hydro, why not tap it at source.

[charly2]

Gravity is a conservative force y will always be, period. Nothing will change that.
I am not saying Bessler was a fraud, he found the way to cheat gravity, it was just a nice trick to cheat gravity. It is possible but, that does not mean that it is non conservative.

[Ken]

Trevor,

Excellent post.

And don't forget to add:

The PATH of the weights (particle) determines the output.
Change the path, the output changes.