Bellows Build
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re: Bellows Build
I wouldn't be patenting Bessler's wheel not because Bessler didn't invent it, but because his wheels failed prior art tests of the Patent Office.
In the absence of that actual working wheel, Bessler's or otherwise, there would be; as there is now, no prior art of a working model. If I had that working model, and received a patent on it, Bessler would get no credit. However, if Bessler's wheels could be shown to work, then I, along with everyone else could not obtain a patent because Bessler would finally get credit for the invention.
Couldn't make sense out of the rest of it. It seems you are confusing design and utility patents.
In the absence of that actual working wheel, Bessler's or otherwise, there would be; as there is now, no prior art of a working model. If I had that working model, and received a patent on it, Bessler would get no credit. However, if Bessler's wheels could be shown to work, then I, along with everyone else could not obtain a patent because Bessler would finally get credit for the invention.
Couldn't make sense out of the rest of it. It seems you are confusing design and utility patents.
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re: Bellows Build
>> Couldn't make sense out of the rest of it. It seems you are confusing design and utility patents. <<
I'm not the one who is confused. Unlike people such as yourself and ab hammer, I am not looking at how I can profit from Bessler's work but how I can demonstrate it.
it seems when people have nothing (like your worthless patent and ab hammer's worthless builds), they need some way of showing they think they know something when in reality, they don't.
After all, ab hammer did post that any education, experience, etc. that I have is meaningless to him and he only considers what he claims to have done to have merit.
As I have mentioned before, I have never seen ab hammer do a build. He has seen me do quite a few.
And I would venture a guess to say that the two of you want what I have because you know it is worth something but there is one basic reason why I have it and neither of you do, it is because I have been willing to take the time to do the work. It is the only proper way to understand Bessler's work.
And since I am the one paying for what I am building, whether or not I allow someone else to influence what I do is solely up to me. It's like they say, nothing ventured, nothing gained and as ab hammer claims to have built Bessler's drawings, he hasn't.
He's a joke just like you.
Jim
I'm not the one who is confused. Unlike people such as yourself and ab hammer, I am not looking at how I can profit from Bessler's work but how I can demonstrate it.
it seems when people have nothing (like your worthless patent and ab hammer's worthless builds), they need some way of showing they think they know something when in reality, they don't.
After all, ab hammer did post that any education, experience, etc. that I have is meaningless to him and he only considers what he claims to have done to have merit.
As I have mentioned before, I have never seen ab hammer do a build. He has seen me do quite a few.
And I would venture a guess to say that the two of you want what I have because you know it is worth something but there is one basic reason why I have it and neither of you do, it is because I have been willing to take the time to do the work. It is the only proper way to understand Bessler's work.
And since I am the one paying for what I am building, whether or not I allow someone else to influence what I do is solely up to me. It's like they say, nothing ventured, nothing gained and as ab hammer claims to have built Bessler's drawings, he hasn't.
He's a joke just like you.
Jim
re: Bellows Build
smith66 wrote
What a load of crap!! Your education is meaningless because you make it that way and your words and actions destroys any possible merit you may have ever earned.
You said you are not the one confused? No you are more like DELUSIONAL!!. And you say you have never seen any of my builds? That would mean you must be blind. Are you now going to complain about that as well?
But of course this is also to cover that you have no completed builds that may count more than 2 in your life's work for Bessler of what? 10+ years? That is a very poor track record for a snail.
LindgaardI'm not the one who is confused. Unlike people such as yourself and ab hammer, I am not looking at how I can profit from Bessler's work but how I can demonstrate it.
it seems when people have nothing (like your worthless patent and ab hammer's worthless builds), they need some way of showing they think they know something when in reality, they don't.
After all, ab hammer did post that any education, experience, etc. that I have is meaningless to him and he only considers what he claims to have done to have merit.
As I have mentioned before, I have never seen ab hammer do a build. He has seen me do quite a few.
And I would venture a guess to say that the two of you want what I have because you know it is worth something but there is one basic reason why I have it and neither of you do, it is because I have been willing to take the time to do the work. It is the only proper way to understand Bessler's work.
And since I am the one paying for what I am building, whether or not I allow someone else to influence what I do is solely up to me. It's like they say, nothing ventured, nothing gained and as ab hammer claims to have built Bessler's drawings, he hasn't.
He's a joke just like you.
Jim
What a load of crap!! Your education is meaningless because you make it that way and your words and actions destroys any possible merit you may have ever earned.
You said you are not the one confused? No you are more like DELUSIONAL!!. And you say you have never seen any of my builds? That would mean you must be blind. Are you now going to complain about that as well?
But of course this is also to cover that you have no completed builds that may count more than 2 in your life's work for Bessler of what? 10+ years? That is a very poor track record for a snail.
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"
So With out a dream, there is no vision.
Old and future wheel videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer/videos
Alan
So With out a dream, there is no vision.
Old and future wheel videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer/videos
Alan
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re: Bellows Build
I concede the invention in my patent isn't exactly cold fusion.like your worthless patent and ab hammer's worthless builds
It's just better than cold fusion so far. It does what it claims.
And?He has seen me do quite a few.
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Hey guys. smith66, aka Jim Lindgaard, is simply a troll trying to yank your chains. Give him a red dot. Put him on ignore. Don't respond to his posts. And hopefully he will soon be kicked off. Of course he will simply acquire a new email and user name and rejoin. It seems Scott leaves him here for entertainment purposes. Does that make Jim Lindgaard the the Court Jester?
And since I mentioned his name, thus breaking my own advice, he will spew all sorts of venom at me. I only see his posts in the topic review section when I make a post.
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And since I mentioned his name, thus breaking my own advice, he will spew all sorts of venom at me. I only see his posts in the topic review section when I make a post.
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re: Bellows Build
Jim Williams,
Your aquarium in the desert reminded me of this Alan Parsons' music video directed by the late Storm Thorgerson (who was the artist who did many of the album covers for Pink Floyd and Alan Parsons among others).
Somebody added a bit of noise at the start of it here, but I think it's the longer version of the video which has a few more interesting visuals than the shorter version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZBt3zzxImI
Oh, and your previous music video posts reminded me of this. Here is Moya (Maire) Brennan singing "Call of the wild" for Alan Parsons from his The Time Machine CD, if you haven't heard it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kehTezsH2fE
Take care.
Dwayne
Your aquarium in the desert reminded me of this Alan Parsons' music video directed by the late Storm Thorgerson (who was the artist who did many of the album covers for Pink Floyd and Alan Parsons among others).
Somebody added a bit of noise at the start of it here, but I think it's the longer version of the video which has a few more interesting visuals than the shorter version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZBt3zzxImI
Oh, and your previous music video posts reminded me of this. Here is Moya (Maire) Brennan singing "Call of the wild" for Alan Parsons from his The Time Machine CD, if you haven't heard it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kehTezsH2fE
Take care.
Dwayne
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>> It seems Scott leaves him here for entertainment purposes <<jim_mich wrote:Hey guys. smith66, aka Jim Lindgaard, is simply a troll trying to yank your chains. Give him a red dot. Put him on ignore. Don't respond to his posts. And hopefully he will soon be kicked off. Of course he will simply acquire a new email and user name and rejoin. It seems Scott leaves him here for entertainment purposes. Does that make Jim Lindgaard the the Court Jester?
And since I mentioned his name, thus breaking my own advice, he will spew all sorts of venom at me. I only see his posts in the topic review section when I make a post.
It could also be that Scott realizes I am the only person who actually builds anything related to Bessler's wheel.
Of course Jim_Mich, yours and ab hammers posts could be considered defamatory and would allow me to take legal action against the both of you.
After all, armoring is not engineering and you have yet to demonstrate any knowledge relative to engineering. After all, you still don't know what words mean and I doubt Bessler would have written movement in the English language as you claim he has done.
I have contacted John Collins to see if he has any knowledge of Bessler using the English language. If not, then fraudulent posting would be a reason to ban someone.
Re: re: Bellows Build
Alan,AB Hammer wrote:smith66 wrote
LindgaardI'm not the one who is confused. Unlike people such as yourself and ab hammer, I am not looking at how I can profit from Bessler's work but how I can demonstrate it.
it seems when people have nothing (like your worthless patent and ab hammer's worthless builds), they need some way of showing they think they know something when in reality, they don't.
After all, ab hammer did post that any education, experience, etc. that I have is meaningless to him and he only considers what he claims to have done to have merit.
As I have mentioned before, I have never seen ab hammer do a build. He has seen me do quite a few.
And I would venture a guess to say that the two of you want what I have because you know it is worth something but there is one basic reason why I have it and neither of you do, it is because I have been willing to take the time to do the work. It is the only proper way to understand Bessler's work.
And since I am the one paying for what I am building, whether or not I allow someone else to influence what I do is solely up to me. It's like they say, nothing ventured, nothing gained and as ab hammer claims to have built Bessler's drawings, he hasn't.
He's a joke just like you.
Jim
What a load of crap!! Your education is meaningless because you make it that way and your words and actions destroys any possible merit you may have ever earned.
You said you are not the one confused? No you are more like DELUSIONAL!!. And you say you have never seen any of my builds? That would mean you must be blind. Are you now going to complain about that as well?
But of course this is also to cover that you have no completed builds that may count more than 2 in your life's work for Bessler of what? 10+ years? That is a very poor track record for a snail.
What does the Bible (Jesus) say about people like you and Jim_Mich ?
You know, 2 people that say there is nothing to Bessler's drawings.
Matthew 7:6
“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
New King James version
edited to add; it does seem that you and Jim_Mich are trying to tear me into pieces to protect your credibility.
And what is holy ? In this forum, it would be Bessler's wheel and the pearls would be the knowledge I have gleaned from his drawings.
I think this is funny as all heck. You 2 are showing where there is wisdom in the Bible and that what comes from your mouths is nothing but the vile things found in your souls. ;-)
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re: Bellows Build
Dwayne:
Thanks much for the Maire (Moya) Brennan selection. I've added it to my collection of her work. I first listened to her when I lived on the street, where she would keep me attached to Earth.
The Alan Parson's video also reminded me of the construct I was attempting to build in the desert. Just put in a bellows device, stand back and watch it do nothing. Too bad it turned out like that.
Jim W.
Thanks much for the Maire (Moya) Brennan selection. I've added it to my collection of her work. I first listened to her when I lived on the street, where she would keep me attached to Earth.
The Alan Parson's video also reminded me of the construct I was attempting to build in the desert. Just put in a bellows device, stand back and watch it do nothing. Too bad it turned out like that.
Jim W.
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re: Bellows Build
Jim W.,
You're welcome. I believe this work of Maire Brennan's with Alan Parsons may have been the first I was really aware of her. I had heard and liked some of Enya's stuff before, though, who is apparently her sister.
Now that I have dsl, I should be able to explore some more of both of their stuff. I do have to admit I seem to be drawn to some Irish music. Maybe it's the Irish in me from my mom's side of the family.
Anyway, I don't have much to say about attempted buoyant devices. I've not given those a whole lot of thought. Movement through water seems like it would be inherently lossy and inefficient to me, though, even if one could luck upon some magic mechanism. I guess one would want to try for a high torque, low velocity design if he were on to something.
If one or more of my own ideas - and non buoyant designs - proved to be successful, though, I would perhaps give buoyancy more thought, for maybe aspects of those could be used in a buoyant device.
Anyway, I try not to discourage people from exploring their own ideas, though, even if I don't personally believe they will work. Maybe they'll learn something along the way. ...or, of course, I could maybe even be wrong. ...lol
Where specific tests have already been done and there are actual results to see and understand, though, I will more likely weigh in on that. ...especially if the claims by others about the results don't conform to the apparent and understood reality.
So, some "been there - done that" input from others would certainly seem to me to be worth taking into account.
Take care.
Dwayne
You're welcome. I believe this work of Maire Brennan's with Alan Parsons may have been the first I was really aware of her. I had heard and liked some of Enya's stuff before, though, who is apparently her sister.
Now that I have dsl, I should be able to explore some more of both of their stuff. I do have to admit I seem to be drawn to some Irish music. Maybe it's the Irish in me from my mom's side of the family.
Anyway, I don't have much to say about attempted buoyant devices. I've not given those a whole lot of thought. Movement through water seems like it would be inherently lossy and inefficient to me, though, even if one could luck upon some magic mechanism. I guess one would want to try for a high torque, low velocity design if he were on to something.
If one or more of my own ideas - and non buoyant designs - proved to be successful, though, I would perhaps give buoyancy more thought, for maybe aspects of those could be used in a buoyant device.
Anyway, I try not to discourage people from exploring their own ideas, though, even if I don't personally believe they will work. Maybe they'll learn something along the way. ...or, of course, I could maybe even be wrong. ...lol
Where specific tests have already been done and there are actual results to see and understand, though, I will more likely weigh in on that. ...especially if the claims by others about the results don't conform to the apparent and understood reality.
So, some "been there - done that" input from others would certainly seem to me to be worth taking into account.
Take care.
Dwayne
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re: Bellows Build
Dwayne:
I'm glad the Patent Office has class 415 subclass 916 - perpetual motion as in doing so they also assume they could be wrong, Also there is IPC F03B17/04 for international searches.
I didn't realize Enya was Maire's sister. I hadn't heard of Enya, until Jim L. mention his preference for her. What a surprise he would prefer her! I enjoy Patrick Ball's Celtic harp music while I'm writing as it is unobtrusive, while not being elevator music either.
http://youtu.be/VOtkjOJ2oMY
This one caught Russians' attention, for the reason of: I have no idea.
Jim W.
I'm glad the Patent Office has class 415 subclass 916 - perpetual motion as in doing so they also assume they could be wrong, Also there is IPC F03B17/04 for international searches.
I didn't realize Enya was Maire's sister. I hadn't heard of Enya, until Jim L. mention his preference for her. What a surprise he would prefer her! I enjoy Patrick Ball's Celtic harp music while I'm writing as it is unobtrusive, while not being elevator music either.
http://youtu.be/VOtkjOJ2oMY
This one caught Russians' attention, for the reason of: I have no idea.
Jim W.
Make up reality
LMAO Lindgaardsmith66 wrote:
>> It seems Scott leaves him here for entertainment purposes <<
It could also be that Scott realizes I am the only person who actually builds anything related to Bessler's wheel.
Of course Jim_Mich, yours and ab hammers posts could be considered defamatory and would allow me to take legal action against the both of you.
After all, armoring is not engineering and you have yet to demonstrate any knowledge relative to engineering. After all, you still don't know what words mean and I doubt Bessler would have written movement in the English language as you claim he has done.
I have contacted John Collins to see if he has any knowledge of Bessler using the English language. If not, then fraudulent posting would be a reason to ban someone.
No you would be the one who is in danger of legal action, and you are just playing troll or you are just to stupid to realize it.
PS Show what Bessler wheels you have built. Oh of course you won't show any for you don't have because you never finish any.
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"
So With out a dream, there is no vision.
Old and future wheel videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer/videos
Alan
So With out a dream, there is no vision.
Old and future wheel videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer/videos
Alan
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Alan,AB Hammer wrote:LMAO Lindgaardsmith66 wrote:
>> It seems Scott leaves him here for entertainment purposes <<
It could also be that Scott realizes I am the only person who actually builds anything related to Bessler's wheel.
Of course Jim_Mich, yours and ab hammers posts could be considered defamatory and would allow me to take legal action against the both of you.
After all, armoring is not engineering and you have yet to demonstrate any knowledge relative to engineering. After all, you still don't know what words mean and I doubt Bessler would have written movement in the English language as you claim he has done.
I have contacted John Collins to see if he has any knowledge of Bessler using the English language. If not, then fraudulent posting would be a reason to ban someone.
No you would be the one who is in danger of legal action, and you are just playing troll or you are just to stupid to realize it.
PS Show what Bessler wheels you have built. Oh of course you won't show any for you don't have because you never finish any.
You show this forum for the joke it is. One lone person can't be a troll but a forum can be filled with trolls. After all, trolls have to protect their family and their home and that is why you and your friends don't like me.
I actually know what I'm talking about and hopefully one day, I can get a cyber stalking law named after you.
After all, you did tell me that you want me to make you famous. You didn't mention how and that is the only way that could be supported by your conduct.
I am glad of one thing though Lady Silver rose, I'm not you. I'm glad that when I was in a severe accident, I didn't play the cripple but worked at rehabilitating myself.
By the way, your jealousy got old years ago.
@All, it does take time to build a work bench but will not post any more work. I can see and have seen where credible people do not do that in this forum if they are English speaking in America (it's my 2nd language).
Why 3 picks ? Took more than one day, and this way I get metal working experience, ab hammer has taught me that anything that involves the use of metal is metal working because it involves someone like himself.
it's not true but you guys accept it as being so.