The Wheel is solved in a New Norwegian Patent

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Fletcher wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:36 pm ETA .. wow, I'm impressed with your work so far Spark, and in double quick time :7)
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yeah finish that thing so we can look at our predictions (i wont mind being off) , and Frog gets to see it too .
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johannesbender wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:51 pm yeah finish that thing so we can look at our predictions (i wont mind being off) , and Frog gets to see it too .
What are the current bets??
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sparkshade you have some serous skills dude.

It works slicker than I thought. Maybe Frog did build part of it.
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I think if Frog wanted it to always be balanced, he should have at least 6 arms, so 12-9 torque would be balanced by the 9-6 opposed torque... The more the better. You can't use the movement of the flip to take energy without creating more counter torque though....

Also, Nice build Spark.
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daxwc wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:15 pm sparkshade you have some serous skills dude.

It works slicker than I thought. Maybe Frog did build part of it.
Hey thanks a lot!

He clearly thought about it right, but it's a mystery why he's not pushing more information. Maybe he isn't the original creator?
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Tarsier79 wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:21 pm I think if Frog wanted it to always be balanced, he should have at least 6 arms, so 12-9 torque would be balanced by the 9-6 opposed torque... The more the better. You can't use the movement of the flip to take energy without creating more counter torque though....

Also, Nice build Spark.
Thanks a lot!

I should have the complete build in a couple of days.
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Je reste septique,
J'ai un problème avec votre corde à piano, il me semble que ses caractéristiques vont au dela des limites elastiques par rapport aux poids mis en oeuvre!!!?

I remain skeptical,
I have a problem with your piano string, it seems to me that its characteristics go beyond the elastic limits in relation to the weights used!!!?
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sparkshade wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:32 pm 1 wing out of 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbwNug1u_Bc
Bien vu, la conception ne prend que quelques minutes de nos jours, mais l'impression peut parfois depasser nos attentes.
A premiere vue on se dirige vers une Roberval...

A good point: these days, design only takes a few minutes, but the impression can sometimes exceed our expectations.
At first glance, it looks like a Roberval...

https://youtu.be/Zrm6D-z4ZGk?si=GYr8twN3EVbg2rJP
https://youtu.be/yXo_SwG_aRU?si=B3AwZamf3uKabknX
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daxwc wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:15 pm sparkshade you have some serous skills dude.

It works slicker than I thought. Maybe Frog did build part of it.
Maybe he is Frog haha.
Its all relative.
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SHADOW wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:21 am Je reste septique,
J'ai un problème avec votre corde à piano, il me semble que ses caractéristiques vont au dela des limites elastiques par rapport aux poids mis en oeuvre!!!?

I remain skeptical,
I have a problem with your piano string, it seems to me that its characteristics go beyond the elastic limits in relation to the weights used!!!?
It doesn't look like it, but it needs to be very weak otherwise it can shift the whole thing at the wrong moment. I still think it would be better to engage the system in a different way. It shift the thing far too slowly

The lock pin also is not great since it's using gravity, going too fast will mis engage. So the wheel has to turn relatively slowly and at constant RPM, there again, active engagement and a rail to keep the whole thing engage is preferable.
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johannesbender wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:49 am
daxwc wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:15 pm sparkshade you have some serous skills dude.

It works slicker than I thought. Maybe Frog did build part of it.
Maybe he is Frog haha.
I wouldn't just pretend to have a working wheel, so no lol
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Je pense que le système de verouillage peut être amalioré mais le contôle du pendule reste aléatoire.
Cela resemble plus à un système oscillant entretenant la rotation sans potentiel de travail de sortie!
Quand pensez vous nous présenter l'ensemble à trois branches?

I think the locking system can be improved but the control of the pendulum remains random.
This resembles more to an oscillating system maintaining rotation without potential output work!
When do you think you will present the three-pronged set?
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I wanted to say, (I realized too late), Frog was very sincere. He really believed in it. Maybe sparkshade is right some one else did the work, maybe a father--------------Sam
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I dont think Frog had bad intentions , he just believes its solved .
Its all relative.
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