How do you define PMM ..

[Oxygon]

Man is very sure of "what is" and "what is not"...

Man is arrogant in his knowledge...

Until it bites him in the arse... or flies over him...

We all know this...

only to repeat the same forever I guess...

We always say in hindsight (which is 20/20)...

We just didn't know any better... at the time.

[rlortie]

H. G. Wells wrote about a time machine that could take a passenger backward and forward in time. Unfortunately, one of the consequences of Einsteinian Relativity Theory is that backward time travel is impossible.

Ken,
Leave it up to you to pick one of a few books by Jules Verne that has not come to pass. I was referring to those that have been fulfilled, such as man on the moon. Deep sea diving, around the world in less than 80 days, helicopters. airplanes and other things he wrote of almost century before their time etc.

With time travel, we also have not Journeyed to the center of the earth or experienced a War between the Worlds. But that is not to say that it will not eventually happen.

By the way, I do not remember his time machine traveling into the past, but only the future. He could only travel backwards to his point of departure. The recent movie did have him traveling back, but that was not in the original book.

Ralph

[Madmax]

Ken wrote:

You intend to store the energy released by a dropping weight before the weight drops? Sounds like you want to get effect before cause...that's impossible!

The machine drawings are all locked to the floor but the pendula are not vertical because of the spring (?) loaded inside the wheel. Thus the machine has some energy stored before start...
Nothing is impossible :)

max

[ken_behrendt]

Ralph wrote:

By the way, I do not remember his time machine traveling into the past, but only the future. He could only travel backwards to his point of departure. The recent movie did have him traveling back, but that was not in the original book.

It still would have had to have been able to travel back in time for him to reach this starting point which would be a clear contradiction of the causality built into the universe. I do, however, believe that a kind of forward time travel is possible...but, unfortunately, it is a one-way trip into the future.

All that is needed is some sort of "stasis" field that would inhibit all motion by the atoms and molecules in a person's body. Once that had been done, the person's metabolism would slow to an imperceptable crawl while the rate of atomic and molecular motion outside of the person's body continued at its usual speed. A person in such a prolonged state would see the world external to himself racing around a blinding speed. He would think he was normal and the speed control on the outside universe had broken. Outsiders would think they were normal (and they would be), but would observe the "time traveler" to appear to be frozen in place. Perhaps an outsider would have to observed the time traveler for almost a day to notice him blink once!

Anyway, if anybody is interested in such concepts and what their consequences might be, you can find an article I did on the topic titled Time Machines and Time Theory on my website (www.cosmicvault.com).



ken

[Michael]

Once that had been done, the person's metabolism would slow to an imperceptable crawl while the rate of atomic and molecular motion outside of the person's body continued at its usual speed. A person in such a prolonged state would see the world external to himself racing around a blinding speed. He would think he was normal and the speed control on the outside universe had broken. Outsiders would think they were normal (and they would be), but would observe the "time traveler" to appear to be frozen in place. Perhaps an outsider would have to observed the time traveler for almost a day to notice him blink once!

A shame if one of these people came and chopped his head off.

I have an idea for a time machine, it's probably fantasy and if so it might illuminate what the people who fictionalized the philidelphia experiment were trying to provoke, or it might be real.

All of our current physics is based on time being a fluid quality and space and distance being fixed qualities. That is, the time it takes to get from one place to another can be easily altered by increasing or decreasing ones speed, but the distances remains fixed. What if there was a way to flip things around so distance became a fluid quality and time was fixed. Any number of senarios might pop up then. Imagine within a certain time framework all times were happening at once ( fixed ). In this senario distance could be alterable. It would be possible for a being living in this kind of framework to build a type of bridge from one event in time to another because they see them both at the same time. This bridge would have a consequence and affect the space-distance between those two event points. As I said that's what I think the philidelphia experiment was going after, that's why when the ship disappeared it was seen in two places at once and why when it reappeared some people were suppose to have merged in with the structure off the ship.

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