Thankyou Stwewart and Scott This is good news to here about the pendulum being removable i remember reading how bessler would let people adjust the motion or something perhaps by adjusting the arrangement of the pendulums the speed of the wheel could be altered?.
Jimmy
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interesting!
A few thoughts I pull out of this.
Interesting to hear more about the pendulums and there ultimate redundancy.
I don't think they are speed governors at all, the wheel would pulse as I have said before (even if invisible to the eye) remember Bessler mentions the heavens, and nothing goes along in a steady state(Newton) but rather everything is either speeding up or slowing down. and this would not be good for driving stampers or winching ropes(stampers would suffer from uneven/irregular blows and rope would snatch and break/jump pulleys more readily). like wise having a pendulum each side is for smoothing, not limiting rotation.
They are back torque devices? they smooth the wheel by adding 'selective' drag or aid it with sympathetic input? I think when he let others touch them it was to adjust and find the 'sweet spot', just watch the rope hauling the rocks twanging(like a bow) and 'dial it out'.
Ultimately the speed governing will be in the internal mech and be brought about by CF.
As an aside I also think when the wheel was reported as VERY noisy I believe that was when the stampers were operating, they are really loud.
Is there any useful pendulum 'ratio' here we can determine? like swing to rotation or other? or internal clues? It may be the effect the pendulums produced was 'built in' later and wasn't externally visible.
Lastly, Wagners spit-jack, a spit jack as you may know is a screw operated storksbill/scissors...interesting again as you have the screwed men on the lower hammer toy...
I have a few other insights to think on too lol.
Best Regards
Jon
Interesting to hear more about the pendulums and there ultimate redundancy.
I don't think they are speed governors at all, the wheel would pulse as I have said before (even if invisible to the eye) remember Bessler mentions the heavens, and nothing goes along in a steady state(Newton) but rather everything is either speeding up or slowing down. and this would not be good for driving stampers or winching ropes(stampers would suffer from uneven/irregular blows and rope would snatch and break/jump pulleys more readily). like wise having a pendulum each side is for smoothing, not limiting rotation.
They are back torque devices? they smooth the wheel by adding 'selective' drag or aid it with sympathetic input? I think when he let others touch them it was to adjust and find the 'sweet spot', just watch the rope hauling the rocks twanging(like a bow) and 'dial it out'.
Ultimately the speed governing will be in the internal mech and be brought about by CF.
As an aside I also think when the wheel was reported as VERY noisy I believe that was when the stampers were operating, they are really loud.
Is there any useful pendulum 'ratio' here we can determine? like swing to rotation or other? or internal clues? It may be the effect the pendulums produced was 'built in' later and wasn't externally visible.
Lastly, Wagners spit-jack, a spit jack as you may know is a screw operated storksbill/scissors...interesting again as you have the screwed men on the lower hammer toy...
I have a few other insights to think on too lol.
Best Regards
Jon