Mobocracy at its best

[scott]

NB: I'm all for intelligent discussion and debate. Name calling and childish partisan ranting on the other hand, I struggle to endure.

[MrTim]

I've seen quite a bit of that in politics topics on other forums lately, some of it verging on downright hatred of opposing viewpoints. Those people scare me....

[primemignonite]

And so have I, Mr. Tim, so have I.

Internally engineered, paranoically-based lack of communication, combined with the will to do petty warring within way too many personality types around these days, is what fires much of it on. This is a typical symptomology.

Politics is the perfect medium for the growth of the malaise, and so it does.

I believe that it has much to do with a general psychical disturbance now happening, rather than one merely psychological, and, that there is an unmistakable aspect of the insuperable about it, as I have observed, and also, due to this, when peace cannot be made and secured by any means tried, grief for all is but just around the corner.

I, too, am concerned.

James

PS John Collins' "Rogues Gallery" is lacking your actual, human likeness, Mr. Tim.

We are all waiting . . .

[ovyyus]

Well James, we're not all waiting.

...when peace cannot be made and secured by any means tried, grief for all is but just around the corner.

Peace is clearly a struggle with no end.

Two young Jehovah's Witnesses knocked on my door the other week and showed me their illustrated cartoon pamphlet depicting a perfectly peaceful world where lions are vegetarian and lambs frolic safely through the jungle and where everyone is smiling and beautiful and clean and it's sunny and warm. I told them they had a great sales pitch but asked why they might not feel compelled to direct more of their personal effort towards making this world a better place, rather than investing so heavily in a next. Apparently, our world is imperfect and they were quite comfortable being party to it's demise because they said peace and security can never be perfectly and permanently secured by any means tried.

After briefly chatting with them about the virtues and shortcomings of illustrated cartoon pamphlet worlds, I played them a Talking Heads song called Heaven. Curiously, they seemed to miss the point entirely...

Everyone is trying to get to the bar.
The name of the bar, the bar is called Heaven.
The band in Heaven plays my favorite song.
They play it once again, they play it all night long.

Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
Heaven, heaven is a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.

There is a party, everyone is there.
Everyone will leave at exactly the same time.
Its hard to imagine that nothing at all
could be so exciting, and so much fun.

Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
Heaven, heaven is a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.

When this kiss is over it will start again.
It will not be any different, it will be exactly the same.
It's hard to imagine that nothing at all
could be so exciting, could be so much fun.

Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
Heaven, heaven is a place, a place where nothing, nothing ever happens.

[docfeelsgood]

"Boiler Bill" ;
that sounds like a very boring place !!

As one old veteran aptly said , "When There Is No Noise ,,, There Is No Money" !!!!

[Jim Williams]

When I think about voting or not voting I do so in the context as being one human being amoung all the human beings of Earth.

For obscurity I note in the American patent law that any human being on Earth can apply for a US patent and than every human being on Earth owns the real property of every invention in expired patents. Every human being can "vote" on what to do with this real property that they own or through their invention wish others to own, while not every human being can vote in elections.

Not voing removes one from the human race when one has the choice to vote.

[bluesgtr44]

I don't do this much because I'm an asshole in these things. I do, however understand these few things. They don't solve much, but they will give one a better understanding of why people and things are the way they are.....

1. Where you sit.....is where you stand.

2. If you look for something hard enough, you'll find it!

3. Right and wrong.....Legal and illegal are not the same thing.

4. Nothing is 100%....you really can't please all the people all the time.

5. There can be no gain without a sacrafice.

All these do is let me know I haven't the where-with-all to be all knowing nor everything to everyone. I'm shackled by the same restrictions as anyone else on the face of this great Orb.....I am what I am and I know what I know.....and there is so much more I don't know than know.....and that's not exactly a bad thing. Thinking I "know it all" is......

[rlortie]

Steve... A little off-topic, but I believe Bessler strongly lived by rule No. 5. That is why he did not "give" us the answer. One does not appreciate material gifts when given as they do when they have to earn it.

As for rule No.4, If a candidate for president kept all of his promises and then was responsible for all that happens once in office, he would not be a president but a dictator.

In the meantime I will stick with rule No.2...

Ralph

[docfeelsgood]

very interesting reading...

http://tinyurl.com/dn4mrk

[Jim Williams]

I belong to a group which is mostly black. The other day a woman piped up about, "our Obama" to which, being white, I found I was taking offense. So I did a little research to find out that Obama's relatives are from Kenya, Ireland, Scotland, England, France, the Netherlands and American Indians. Being from England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, France and American Indians myself the next time the group of us got together I pointed that out, noting that the President was also "my Obama".

What I note with interest is that over here we are all African, Irish, English, Polish, etc. Americans, not just Americans. As a country I think we are just too young to be known, which the exception of native Americans, as having our own collective identity, i.e., to be Americans.

Perhaps when we are only Americans, we can also worry more about whether Obama is a "pure American", like the rest of us.

Jim W.

[justsomeone]

Well said Jim.

[Jim Williams]

Correction: The woman didn't say, "our Obama", but said, "our President" and I didn't say, "my Obama", but said, "my President". It was her inflection that caught my attention. Sorry for the misquote, The meaning is pretty much the same.