Detroit and U.S.steel

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Good one Ralph .

I think I've wet Myself ! .

[rlortie]

years ago the USA had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash.
Now the USA has no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash.

Jobs is calling Gates from I Cloud, where there is no Windows or Gates.

[Ed]

Don't let Canada or Mexico hit you on your way out!

;-)

[rlortie]

Excuse me!

From the looks of the population around this area, I thought I was already in Mexico. They just call it USA to oblige political correctives. I have to press #1 if I wish to converse in English.

Learning Spanish in school is no longer an elective course, it is mandatory. Job applicants must be bi-lingual if they hope to land a position. The most active place in town is the cashier line at the grocery store that accepts food stamps.

Ralph

[Ed]

You were given two door options Ralph.... take the other door then aye, just don't let it hit you on your way out!

[rlortie]

Ed,

If I had my choice, I think I would rather take the route "Unstable" is on.

He left the East Coast with his wife, and sailed to the Virgin Islands. From there on to Panama, his wife got sick and she flew home from Colon Panama. He transited the canal then sailed alone up the coast of Central America and across to Maui nonstop. A voyage of 5,000 miles in 39-days.

He is currently tied securely to a dock in Ma'alaea (Buzze's Landing) looking across the break wall out toward Molokini.

I think he should have headed Southwest and paid Fletcher a visit.

Ralph

[rlortie]

Link sent to me from a contact in Victoria BC after I sent him one from Alberta! His comment: "It is too late....your country is toast"



http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/ ... as-future/

[rasselasss]

Truly,i find it sad,the demise of a once great industrial city,when i read the magazine in depth description as i wrote at the start of this blog it was'nt the memory i had as a child,my father took our family over to Detroit for one month in 1961,it was a working holiday for him sourcing components.Living where we lived near Bushmills,we had no mains electric,no mains piped water,outside dry toilet,as a boy totally amazing to see this huge city and what we had'nt got ,taken for granted ,with all the hustle and bustle and the sights(Ford Institute ,etc.)neon lights ,huge gorgeous motor cars et.all,remained with me as a very pleasant early childhood memory(best holiday i ever had as a youth),...i suppose a parallel could be drawn alike the cities of the Aztec's but you have to wonder how this can happen in this day and age....Good Luck.

[getterdone]

Ralph, I don't think there is any need for you to start packing just yet lol
I'm old enough to remember a politician by the name of Ross Perrot, who warned Americans about the hazards of free trade.
Years ago, when I would see people protesting globalization (Mostly young people), i didn't understand what they were all pissed off about. I thought they were just trouble makers.
I see things differently today.

[jim_mich]

The first time I saw Detroit, I was age 17. I'd worked after school and weekends for almost a year to save money for my first car, a two year old 1962 Chevy Corvair. One summer day of 1964, I took a friend along and drove into Detroit, about 75 miles (120 km) away. The air was so dirty the sky looked brown. I about choked on the dirty air from all the cars and factories.

[rlortie]

An excerpt from Wikpipidia:

The Industrial Revolution was the transition to new manufacturing processes that occurred in the period from about 1760 to some time between 1820 and 1840. This transition included going from hand production methods to machines, new chemical manufacturing and iron production processes, improved efficiency of water power, the increasing use of steam power and development of machine tools. The transition also included the change from wood and other bio-fuels to coal. The Industrial revolution began in Britain and within a few decades spread to Western Europe and the United States.

The Industrial Revolution marks a major turning point in history; almost every aspect of daily life was influenced in some way. Most notably, average income and population began to exhibit unprecedented sustained growth. In the words of Nobel Prize winner Robert E. Lucas, Jr., "For the first time in history, the living standards of the masses of ordinary people have begun to undergo sustained growth ... Nothing remotely like this economic behavior has happened before".[2]
William Bell Scott Iron and Coal, 1855-60

I would say that for Detroit, not only is the canary dead so is the end of a 300+year industrial revolution, It is not the only or the last great industrial cities in the U.S. to collapse. And it is not just the Metallurgy industry that is declining,

Lumber and building material is at a 10 year high, brought about by the closure of mills and factories, although building new homes is almost at standstill, the demand does no make restarting closed mills cost effective.

Yesterday I purchased two sheets of 1/2" particle board, least expensive underlayment grade. I paid as much for it as I did a sheet of industrial grade MDF three weeks ago!

Last time I checked, a pound of copper Penney's is worth $3.61. That explains why Detroit is loosing the copper wire to it's street lights.

Did you know that the biggest export from the City and port of New York
is not "Made in America" products, but recycled cardboard!

Ralph

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi Ralph,

sounds like the UK, lucky most of my work is in the food industry, and we all have to eat, well while we can afford to that is!

With respect Trevor

[rasselasss]

J.S.O.,i agree with Riortie,most countries are past the cost effective stage of"start up"by introducing trade tarrifs on imports,as Trevor stated mostly over here employment is in the "services"industry,in ireland the linen and textile industry is finished and most of the clothes i'm wearing right now are made in China,Indonesia,etc.,possibly its the same over there...The cranes in docks here are mostly unloading goods coming in,the difference in comparison of import/export is immense.....a good recent example,on another thread here is of Alex's,components for experimenting with Eddy current,i priced,digital scales £4 (made in china) 5 off Neo magnets n35 £6(made in china)and 6foot X3/4 bore copper pipe (made in Germany)£20 ...all imported...i think its a case of "too late"and would people pay the inflated prices that "start up"would incur,everything would be near enough "double".....Good Luck.

[rasselasss]

This is well off-topic.. Jim Mich,where i lived at the time a pop. of 600 odd people, a common sight was horses and carts , motor cars as a 12 year old were scrutinised closely,Detroit with its smoke and noise was another world,it was the first time i saw a shower in a bathroom and i remember switching off/on the lights in amazement...how different the world today....as stated this is well off-topic,if i could afford to buy and maintain American cars the two i would choose are...Hudson Hornet ....and a Cadillac Eldorado...to me works of art....Good Luck.