Anyone suffer health problems over this?

[cloud camper]

There is a third way and it makes the most sense to me - this is the idea of an evil and suppressive deity who created all the physical forms in the universe, including human bodies, but not the spiritual.

The thrust here is that this evil deity felt threatened by the existence of others (you and I) and created a prison universe and planet filled with disease, disaster and war to suppress and control his potential rivals - the old divide and conquer strategy.

All explained in the ancient myth of Sophia and the Demiurge and was the
life work of the famous psychologist CG Jung to explore and prove the reality of this myth.

This is where Jung discovered his "archetypes" for human behavior and forms the basis of his renowned Depth Psychology.

In this psychology, all human action/reaction is determined and explained by the existence of these hidden primordial archetypes.

http://www.gnosis.org

This is a massive body of data and is not New Age.

[WaltzCee]

I can see the wisdom behind Ovyyus' skepticism because it's far easier on your health to rectify the problem as impossible, that Bessler was a fraud,

You have very good eyes, Silent. I see no wisdom there.

The modern scientific consensus is that Bessler perpetrated a deliberate fraud, although the details of this have not been satisfactorily explained.

Also balance this with other interests. Always keep an eye on your future self looking back and seeing how much time you used on one subject instead of another.

I think this is good advice.

Throw a shrimp on the barbie and have a tinny :)

This is incredibly excellent advice!!!

[ovyyus]

You have very good eyes, Silent. I see no wisdom there.

No wisdom there because silent's premise was wrong. Perhaps you ignored my reply to him, or maybe you're still catching up.

[WaltzCee]

I agree that there is no supporting evidence in god.

I believe in the veracity of the eyewitness testimony concerning
the life, death & resurrection of Jesus the Christ, only begotten son
of the eternal God. I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Government education tried to teach me creation is impossible.
1LoT used to claim energy could not be created or destroyed yet
after Einstein and the Manhattan Project they threw matter into
the mix. By the way, Einstein was no Einstein. They found him
in a basket on the back porch.

If RKE can be squeezed out of the conservative acceleration of
gravity to the extent it perpetuates rotation it will prove something
can come from nothing. The stakes are high.

My client has violated 1LoT from the very beginning. Let there be light.
He sits guilty as charged.

[ovyyus]

He sits guilty as charged.

Charges eventually dropped due to lack of evidence.

[Johndoe2]

I agree with you waltzcee but i dont consider that definitive proof on the level required to prove witjout a shadow of a doubt.

I believe that is the current scientific flavor of the month that the universe “ sprang into existence� from nothing.


The fact that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate after all of these millions of years should be enough for modern science to realize something is not quite right.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 6iZmLVkC4B

[WaltzCee]

I agree with you waltzcee but i dont consider that definitive proof on the level required to prove witjout a shadow of a doubt.

You'd be expecting a level that's quite unreasonable. To assert:

I agree that there is no supporting evidence in god.

is baseless.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Energy or matter? It seems
the evidence is pointing toward energy! Let there be light!! That's the tune
the big bangers are singing now. How could Moses possibly have known
light is energy?

[ovyyus]

Thunder used to be evidence of Thor.

[WaltzCee]

The LHC as a photon collider, They're making matter the old fashioned way.
They're using light.

[ovyyus]

The LHC as a photon collider, They're making matter the old fashioned way. They're using light.

No. The LHC is a proton collider. LHC stands for Large Hadron Collider. Protons and neutrons are examples of a hadron. Nice try though :D

[WaltzCee]

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[WaltzCee]

The LHC as a photon collider, They're making matter the old fashioned way. They're using light.

No. The LHC is a proton collider. LHC stands for Large Hadron Collider. Protons and neutrons are examples of a hadron. Nice try though :D

http://cms.web.cern.ch/news/lhc-photon-collider
You need to let CERN know they're getting out of hand.

[WaltzCee]

I think it's kind of cute science boys are taking a page out of my Abba's book. Not that they had much choice there's only one way to make matter I guess according to Einstein. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Monkey-see monkey-do.

[Johndoe2]

Thunder used to be evidence of Thor.

Interredting anecdote
Red herring and irrelevant
Detracts from serious discussion.

[Johndoe2]

Disclaimer i am a gnostic and christian.
Faith: Jesus replied, "Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done.

Faith is the cornerstone of any TRUE christoan. If you have to see iit to believe it you are a very weak christian or not one at all.