What Bessler’s crossbar looks like

[preoccupied]

I hope that I don't encroach on your idea by posting my own working model similar to yours.

The bottom left and the top right weight are heavier than the other weight so it drives the weight. The attempt here is to gain some force from centrifugal force by putting a spring on the top left and bottom right. For example I guess that the weights could be 0.8 and 1 and that the spring could be 0.4 or more strength. The centrifugal force would contribute 0.2 power to the wheel's reloading action and there would be extra force from centrifugal force slamming against the side of the wheel at the bottom left. In addition to centrifugal force applying to a spring on one side and releasing it on the other to help reload the weights the centrifugal force would also only impact the wheel on the falling side on the left. Because force is being driven into the spring going in it stores centrifugal force and because it's driving out of the spring it releases centrifugal force on the right.

This would cool the planet's core. Like I've mentioned before gravity harnessing would cool the planets core and heat is likely produced by gravity in a vacuum in a planets core because of g forces.

[agor95]

I get a feeling there are a few members & guests having a notion around the 'connectedness principle'.

It has been known that the affect of centrifugal force [ersatz gravity] is the result of a structure resisting a mass moving tangential to a created curved path.

However when that resistance is a rod that fictitious force present on one end can actually do work on the other.

But if the motion of the rod resulted is a tangential path of the original mass. Then the rod can do no work?

That is one notion to think about.

The other is the speed of the mass. The greater the speed the greater the resistance is required.

However the work done could be used to increase the speed of another mass moving perpendicular to the first.

Then you are going into the world of conservation of momentum and precession.

P.S. A simple model can give a simple answer. What has been left out? Does it matter inertially?

Regards

[Leafy]

But…but.. the connectedness principle is real. Offyreus saids it.

Guys, if my build works how do I collect my bounty? I want 1 billion up front, no tax. You hand over the money, I hand over the design. If it’s too simple, suks to be you, but it works. Who would have the money?

[agor95]

But…but.. the connectedness principle is real. Offyreus saids it.

But...but.. you say your design is real. leafy saids it.

But.. but.. you are a figment of my imagination. agor95 saids it.

Saying one or many things does not make them real.
It makes up hear say.

You have to do better than that for money has credibility; because it has proven it works.

Now it's your time to prove your credibility?

All the Best

[Leafy]

I know, people are dying and I got to get my money. I bought all the parts and ready to go. Don’t try to figure out my machine, you gonna get your head hurt. Lol.

[agor95]

Good Luck

When it accelerates you have something interesting.

Regards

[preoccupied]

I hope that I don't encroach on your idea by posting my own working model similar to yours.pulley shifter.png
The bottom left and the top right weight are heavier than the other weight so it drives the weight. The attempt here is to gain some force from centrifugal force by putting a spring on the top left and bottom right. For example I guess that the weights could be 0.8 and 1 and that the spring could be 0.4 or more strength. The centrifugal force would contribute 0.2 power to the wheel's reloading action and there would be extra force from centrifugal force slamming against the side of the wheel at the bottom left. In addition to centrifugal force applying to a spring on one side and releasing it on the other to help reload the weights the centrifugal force would also only impact the wheel on the falling side on the left. Because force is being driven into the spring going in it stores centrifugal force and because it's driving out of the spring it releases centrifugal force on the right.

This would cool the planet's core. Like I've mentioned before gravity harnessing would cool the planets core and heat is likely produced by gravity in a vacuum in a planets core because of g forces.

In my example I said 0.8 weight and 1 weight and a spring force of 0.4. Well the conveyor belt system is connected in the center so it's actually 0.8+0.8 weight and 1+1 weight. 0.16-2=0.4 is the force difference between the weights. So the spring would be crushed if it's 0.4 strength. The spring needs to be more than 0.4 strength by some amount maybe any amount as long as it's not too stiff to harness the centrifugal force. And what am I chopped liver? Am I being ignored? I think this is a great design. Show me some god damn interest and beg me for more. I am Archimedes! Archimedes is my time travel duplicate. Leafy if you did share your connectedness principle and there were promise to it, I would probably fix it and have a working model just like I did with this design. Because I'm Archimedes! I am starved for attention like some kind of horny virgin.

[Leafy]

You’re cute PO :). When I get 1 billion you’ll get 100k.

[johannesbender]

I know, people are dying and I got to get my money. I bought all the parts and ready to go. Don’t try to figure out my machine, you gonna get your head hurt. Lol.

Good on you , everyone should at least build and test at least once , it really helps you stay realistic.

[Leafy]

I just tested 1 mechanism, it doesn’t shift at ideal position due to friction. Oh please guys, pray for me that it still has some net torque left. Amen.

[preoccupied]

I just tested 1 mechanism, it doesn’t shift at ideal position due to friction. Oh please guys, pray for me that it still has some net torque left. Amen.

Are you ready to share a drawing of your design? I think you could use some criticism. I'll be ready to shoot down your idea and replace it with a better one. Just kidding.

[preoccupied]

In my drawing I think that the bottom left weight will impact the wheel with the centrifugal force of its weight and that the top left weight will negate its centrifugal force impact. Normally a corresponding parallel weight's centrifugal force would cancel out the other weights centrifugal force. Because one negates and one impacts I think that the force of the negated weight is added to the force turning the wheel. Or it might be the force of the negated weight plus the force of the difference of the weights. If the weights are 0.8+0.8=1.6 and 1+1=2 and 2-1.6=0.4, it would be 0.4 force plus centrifugal force of the top left weight being negated. In addition to this impact the weights will begin to reload earlier than if they didn't have the spring because of the spring on the bottom right in the drawing. If the spring is longer and stronger it will reload harder sooner. What would this look like in a simulation? I know that it's harder to simulate than Leafy's drawing. What do you think Tarsier79 and Fletcher? The weights are indeed making a pendulum like turn but because of the spring make an attempt at an earlier reload and there is an impact on the bottom left that should be equal to the difference in the weights and the centrifugal force. There would have to 16 weights for this to impact 8 times per turn, every 45 degrees. It won't turn out of control because it will reach its maximum speed and run out of room to expand. It's expanding on the spring. If the spring isn't too strong it shouldn't move too fast, if it works as intended. Also the spring would be less effective against greater centrifugal force the further out the weights position themselves.

[preoccupied]

Another thing is that the pulleys on the conveyor belt are not positioned ideally in my drawing, it's more for demonstration purposes to clearly show the actions being taken. If it were a 3D model I would be able to make it more exact but it's 2D. The pulley locations in the center should be directly in the center probably. All of them. Positioned so that when the weights are pulled into the center that they are right up against the axle. I noticed that I'm not getting a speedy enthusiastic reaction to my ideas. Is it because my ideas are so bad or is it because I'm claiming to have time travel duplicates? Nobody has said anything about Yahweh's Dolly Crowbar. Is that because it's the same time traveler that freed the Jews from Egypt? I'm not particularly proud of all of my time travel duplicates. I don't know how many people Yahweh killed when he flooded the Earth when he created water from nothing using a machine. From what I understand in the Bible he commits genocide like Adolf Hitler did. Adolf Hitler another of my time travel duplicates I can't say that I'm proud of and be taken seriously by anybody. Something a little scary is that these brutal duplicates are only the tip of the ice burg. I have space traveling duplicates that are destroying planets with canons (I think so). They could come to Earth and become offended and just rip the planet into little pieces. Imagine firing a 10,000x light speed rock at Earth with no G-forces holding it back or causing it to time dilate or time travel. It would go right through the planet and split it in two like I assume I recall from space traveling was done to empty planets in space. I don't want to offend me. I don't want to offend Yahweh if he is still time traveling through to the future. I'm sure that Jews have a real god somewhere like Jehovah or something, Yahweh is just he Egyptian engineer that made the crowbar dolly in my memory and a time traveler that flooded the Earth.

[Leafy]

It failed PO. Our money has to wait. I know the principle is right, but I think the design is weak. I’m sure it’ll run on the sim but I’m not willing to disclosed it yet. I have to try a more efficient design.

[preoccupied]

Tarsier79 and Fletcher would you please tell me what you think of my conveyor belt drawing? Is Centrifugal force being used to benefit the wheel? How much force is being applied to the bottom left when the weight impacts there, when it stops moving after being driven by the difference between the weights? Don't make me beg. I really like your opinions. Your calculations would probably be most accurate. Cut Jonathan Perry some slack. I mean Fletcher even did a simulation for the Leafy drawing. I know mine is much harder to simulate and is 3D but I wouldn't mind a simulation. That would rock. Or do you only do simulations on things that you know will fail? Because this is the shit. I think I have a runner. It's hard to know if it's Bessler's wheel there are probably many perpetual motion machine designs that would work.