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Re: Ockham's Razor

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Hi Leafy

It good you have read my post.
Leafy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:31 am Putting people who don’t believes in rules with the people who believes in rule is unbalanced, not balanced.
I have found the best match to your statement.
agor95 wrote:As in your content Tiger(fox) vs Rabbit. Each has the place in their world; but balance is required.
In a way they have a symbiotic relationship.
You notice the 'Duality' present in the believe and don't believe in rules. Therefore not balanced.
There are rules independent to us.

So a person [Fox, Rabbit] that does not believe in rules is still bound by them.

The symbiotic relationship comes from the Fox can not eat grass and the Rabbit can not control it's numbers.
Leafy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:31 am
Dinosaur deserves their place in the world until meteorite wiped the out lol.

Believes me, without the tigers the rabbit will live happily. You may think it’s bad, but the rabbits thinks other way.
The Rabbit will live happily for a time. However as there numbers increase and the food supply collapses their cannibalistic tendencies will come to the surface.

In no time at all there would be a Rabbit eating Rabbit. If they could choose a large fox or an equally size Rabbit minded predator. Then I think they would be more happy with the fox.

Now grass eating Rabbits would build rules to group together for protection.
That is socialism and the drive to change their social environment will drive complexity towards intelligence.

It worked for hominids eating their green and snacking on others when they could group together following some rule justification.

So we can place rules on a continuum from a primary to secondary and on to ternary.

You could say a primary rule is ' planet killing meteorite/asteroid '.
A secondary ' eating your own ' and a ternary ' which source to use' .

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Re: Ockham's Razor

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Hi Agor,

I think you justify the Tiger existence by helping control rabbit population and that rabbit would multiply and eat their own. Would human over multiply and eat their own? Possibly but we’ll find a way. It’s call evolve.

A smart Tiger would takes enough and go back to his cave. Dumb tigers keep terrorizing the town and threatened the smart tigers survival.
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Leafy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:06 pm Hi Agor,

I think you justify the Tiger existence by helping control rabbit population and that rabbit would multiply and eat their own. Would human over multiply and eat their own? Possibly but we’ll find a way. It’s call evolve.

A smart Tiger would takes enough and go back to his cave. Dumb tigers keep terrorizing the town and threatened the smart tigers survival.
I think it would be more accurate to say; I am justifying the development of a predator and pry dynamic.
The existence of Tiger is accepted, but there is no evident such a large 11 foot predator would be successful by eating rabbits. So a Fox would help control the rabbit population.

We don't talk about it but rabbits do eat their own and in food shortages so do humans.
There are examples to support both. You only need to do is research.

The saber-toothed Tiger went extinct approximately 10,000 years ago.
There may have done so by eating all their pry.

Foxes are known for going into killing frenzy leaving nothing alive and most uneaten.

Lions on the other hand; the left one not eaten. Are predators, eat there own and have a social interaction that appears to be rules. To a point they will not attack cattle wearing bells!

The reason when a Lion attack human or bell wearing cattle they are run down and killed.

P.S.

So we are bound by rules and we may behave like they do not exist.
However they are there and in the end balance will be found in time.

So are we a Rabbit, a Fox or a Lion; or are we Monkeying around?

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Let’s change to vampire and human so we don’t get side tracked. Lol

Straight to the point, society agony and suffering comes from the mixing of people who don’t believe in rule and people who do. (As in believes in God and don’t)

When the two mix, the suffer one are those who believes in rule.

Capitalistic or socialistic behavior has nothing to do with good or bad, it’s the belief of rules that is.

If we don’t segregate them, society will collapsed. That means I will suffer and no, that’s not happening lol.

What we do is putting them with those who share the same belief, a home and friends for them. If they believes in eating each other, they will eat each other smiling and die a happy death. There’s nothing wrong with belief, you just have to test it… in a fair environment.

And hey, if they find themselves lost, the can always change belief. I’m sure many who play by the rule feel that life is too good and easy, the wants rough. Well, we have that kinda life for you on the other side of that thick, barricaded barrier. Lol
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Hi Leafy

If we were to use the Razor to find the Bessler's related content.
How much of our post contents would be left?

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Ooo,,, rule abiding citizen. Lol

Obeying rule doesn’t mean a believer of rule. Lol

Of course it’s stem from occam razor and occam razor stem from Bessler related discussion.
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I think someone took the razor out and removed a boatload of someone's grey matter.

Mostly all that's left is water and air.

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I was thinking dividing the earth in half for each side.

However, after assessment, the number of people actually don’t believe in God is about 10-20 people. Everyone else believe in some kind of higher(good) power.

So half of earth for 20 people is too… abundant. Maybe a country.
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