Policy Change -- Sockpuppets & Reputation System

[daxwc]

Well Walt a democracy is not about individual rights; it is about the majority rules.

I didn’t tell him to go away. I haven’t red dotted him. I haven’t suggested he be banned. I did although suggest he could always leave if he wanted. He could start his own forum and have any dam rule his little heart desires.

One can stand on a street corner with his doomsday sign or they can be the change.

[WaltzCee]

Well Walt a democracy is not about individual rights; it is about the majority rules.

So you agree with

Democracy has been described as four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

Thank you for sharing.

[ovyyus]

Democracy is quite the conundrum :D

[daxwc]

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard" - H.L. Mencken

I guess being true to my ideology Walt I would tell you if you don’t like living in the USA give ISIS a try.

[james.lindgard]

lindgard, Jim and anybody else that is complaining you are always free to start your own website and forum. You can even give yourself so many dots green there till you are declared Princess of Drama in the process

What drwma ? According to what you say is to have a group of freinds in here say what is acceptable. I think my having been attacked and harrassed for buildong has been wrong.
And when a person gets green dots for trying to discredit me shows how the rating system is abused. Scott started this forum to shed light on Bessler's work and yet you call me a drwma queen.
And if you consider that this thread is very active and it's primary purpose now seems to be about politics and cronyism and how a few should have authority in this forum.
What you might consider is that mentality might actually keep visitors from posting.

[AB Hammer]

No one has or should be harassed or attacked for building.
There has been constructive criticism that has been misinterpreted and then used as an excuse to get nasty to who was trying to help.

On the other hand there has been those harassed and attacked for not showing what they are building. This is also not acceptable.

Anyone here is here by choice and don't have to be here if they don't want to.
I myself am here to help those who are starting out and others to help them look in a better direction than the obvious and well known non runners. Also to show what I have done that didn't work for myself and look forward to showing one or more that does work. Due to some that attack me for not showing even though I have shown a lot, I show mostly on my private forum here on BesslerWheel.

[james.lindgard]

AB Hammer,
You aren't the only person who has harassed me for building. As to not showing your work, when you post that it is better than what someone else is doing, you do need to show it. Otherwise people can make any claim they want.

edited to add; @All, research does require working with ideas that some in here might find as a waste of time. This is all a part of learning what Bessler knew.

[ME]

James, I'm not convinced AB harasses you; perhaps you think he is; perhaps I missed it...(actually I don't really care) you do what you do: If I think the bickering takes too long I just give you a red dot. When you show some of your builds and/or I feel inspired I give you a green one.
You are one of the few who get's a lot of my dot-swapping-attention: which is by-the-way not based on any exact rule... actually you could consider it as being completely arbitrary.

research does require working with ideas that some in here might find as a waste of time. This is all a part of learning what Bessler knew

I totally agree with this statement... so now I revoked the red and gave you a green :-)

[agor95]

@ME

I agree go dotty in the now and not based on the past.

For that reason I give you a green dot, Duo, you already have it.

[ME]

In that case: thanks for the virtual one :-)

[AB Hammer]

AB Hammer,
You aren't the only person who has harassed me for building. As to not showing your work, when you post that it is better than what someone else is doing, you do need to show it. Otherwise people can make any claim they want.

edited to add; @All, research does require working with ideas that some in here might find as a waste of time. This is all a part of learning what Bessler knew.

James L

No one has ever seen or will see me attack or harass someone for building. (I have been known to defend myself though.) I will give my opinion of course. That is what forums are for. My videos are in my signature block, these are of wheels that I have done. I have shown a lot and will show more as time allows.

If you can stay civil, I will take away the red dot hit you with. Most everyone here "since the change" wants everyone to be civil. This is my peace offering.

[daxwc]

That a boy Hammer. If he accepts you two really need to stay away from each other, be consciousness not to mention each other or bring up old grievances.

I must admit I am impressed with both of your builds and skills. In my opinion etheir one of you going is really a loss.

Although he seems not to know it lindgard building is the only thing that has kept him from being banned again already.

[james.lindgard]

AB Hammer,
You aren't the only person who has harassed me for building. As to not showing your work, when you post that it is better than what someone else is doing, you do need to show it. Otherwise people can make any claim they want.

edited to add; @All, research does require working with ideas that some in here might find as a waste of time. This is all a part of learning what Bessler knew.

James L

No one has ever seen or will see me attack or harass someone for building. (I have been known to defend myself though.) I will give my opinion of course. That is what forums are for. My videos are in my signature block, these are of wheels that I have done. I have shown a lot and will show more as time allows.

If you can stay civil, I will take away the red dot hit you with. Most everyone here "since the change" wants everyone to be civil. This is my peace offering.

You are arrogant. I can show many posts where you have harassed me simply because you have nothing to show.

>> Nothing from nothing leaves nothing james lindgaard There is no value on your approach. Nothing to gain. I already have gain in my machine, and you are mad because I won't show to screw up my claim when I claim. <<
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:30 am

http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic ... c&start=90

There is also your thread calling me the ultimate fraud. And you stated that I had used as many as 50 accounts and was probably mentally ill as well. I would call that attacking someone and being quite vicious about it.

[ME]

Eehm, is there some dot-expert on this forum?
There's a situation with some green dot: It's flickering again. I was under the impression it was fixed.

I suspect it has something to do with some meandering reference to some sarcastic remark about some previous reference which implies other references of certain alleged proofs of something I'm not quite sure really happened.
It's possible I didn't pay enough attention, but it's a rather confusing situation.
Let's hope it's just a temporary glitch.

[jim_mich]

Members having red dots can give negative clicks, but they don't count.

So if a member was at one red dot, and another member gives him a green click, thus possibly raising his dot status to None, and if the former red-dot member had given red clicks to others, then suddenly those others may find their dot status reduced.

So you guys might think twice about green clicking a red-dotted member. They earned their red dots for a reason. Being nice by green-clicking them may be like shooting yourself in your foot.

Just saying...