Georg Künstler's Ideas...

[Wheeler]

Ralph
Can or would you be willing to post an image of this with arrows?

I hope I am wrong about my theory of Georges design.
He has truly shown beautiful workmanship.
Wheeler

[rlortie]

Wheeler,

As you probably know I am not a computer wizard. I can not draw a circle with paint brush as all I find is an eclipse icon. Lord knows I have tried.

It is quite simple to do with a compass. draw one large circle and then draw four of 1/4 size in each quadrant. You will see that this does not interfere with main axle. If you wish you can add the stationary disc that supports the four small ones.

As for the arrows, Just imagine all five circles turning in a clockwise direction. Leave your mind open to what other possibilities this may offer.

I have made some punitive remarks about some of Georg's input, but overall I see a craftsman with innovation and perception in its true form.

Ralph

[rlortie]

I soon expect to hear rebuttal on my 1/4 diameter wheel lifting four pounds by a wheel 4 times its size dropping with only one pound. Some one is thinking that the small wheel must turn four times as fast as the large wheel so there is no gain.

On that basis I agree, but consider that the speed of both wheels at rims are the same. As far as "foot pounds or work" they are the same, but RPM is greater on small wheel, not distance travelled.

Ralph

[Joel Wright]

Hi Ralph Concerning paint.Click the ellipse button,place curser in drawing area,left click mouse and drag a circle.Its easy once you do it a few times.I did have a heck of a time figuring out how to convert BMP to JPEG though.Finally bought a digital camera with the conversion program included.This board does'nt accept BMP format.

[rlortie]

Joel,

Thank you for the input, I did not consider or even know the difference between BMP and JPEG. What you are saying is even if I did draw five circles I could not have posted it.

Ok, next question, if I hand draw it the good old draftsman way, can I then scan it and post it that way? I do have an HP Psc 1210v Printer /scanner /copier.

Remember my version of WM2D is Wood Metal and 2 Days. I just need a good camera now so I can show off my stationary wheels. :-) Any suggestions on a reliable cheap model.

Ralph

[Michael]

Georg, can I ask you a question? I'm not trying to be an ass but the similarities are to tight. Did you get some of your inspiration from a little movie called The Hudsucker Proxy?
This movie takes place in the 50's (looks like the 30's to 40's though). In this movie the main character has a big idea. When he shows his sweet baby, his ticket upstairs, to anyone curious he simply draws a circle. People regard him as a simpleton because of it. He's looking for a job and just when he's entering the building owned by Hudsucker corporation, the president and the owner of the company is exiting from the top floor by a window. He exits just as the main character (played by Tim Robbins) enters. The circle is complete. The death of the president has the companies stocks go down.The vice president has ideas to make money from this. He needs the stocks to go down even further. He and the other board member will then buy the stocks at a lower price. To do this he needs a patsy as the new president, thus Tim Robbins gets his new position. As president Tim Robbins gets to impliment his big idea, which turns out to be the hoola hoop. Things eventually go sour for him and he also exits from the top floor, but accidentlly. just as he's falling to his death, by gravity, an angel descends. The angel happens to be the former president of Hudsucker. The angel has a halo on his head, which moves like a hoola hoop. The angel looks at it and says, oh this? It's all the fad up there. The man lives. The film go on. The moto for Hudsucker Corporation is "The Future Is Now." See the similarity?

[Wheeler]

Ralph
Thanks, is this what you are talking about?
I will study what you said and stay open.
Thanks to Joel,I just learned how to insert a file.
Wheeler

[jim_mich]

There are a number of programs that convert picture file formats. Paint can do a 'Save As' GIF. So can 'Imaging' for Windows. I think both these come standard with Windows. I use a very old program called 'Xoom Photo' that works very well. Most photo and picture programs can 'Save As' in a number of different formats.

I also need a digital camera. In a pinch I know where I can borrow one.

[rlortie]

Wheeler

Yes you have it, only the four smaller wheels are a little bigger and are driving the driven or vise versa.

Jim,

THank you for the input on picture file formats. I am running windows XP which includes Microsoft Picture it 2002. Looks like I need to take some Quick self teaching lessons here.

On another note; I was reading some back posts in this thread and noticed where Georg made the statement that the cylinders did not touch the bottom of the wheel but the side. He did not say rim or side of rim as I would expect. Did anyone else pick up on this. It would sure blow heck out of a lot of hypothesis posted here. Those that consider it braking or wearing out would have to take another look at the whole concept and configuration.

Ralph

[Wheeler]

Yes I wondered what he was saying,and I think he was too busy to reply.

[Joel Wright]

Hi Ralph The camera I bought is a smart mini,it needs windows 98 ,ME,or 2000XP to operate.The camera you get must be compatible with your computer to work.The mini camera software loaded easy,the camera is super simple to use.It has two buttons.Its distributed by Zina International Lyndhurst,NJ USA.I got mine at a local market.I hav'nt checked but its likely avalible on E-BAY.I,m not sure about scanner documents ,but if you can save it in your document file in JPEG or GIF I think this site will accept it.I'm including a photo of the camera I have to show how small it is .That is a standard book of matches at top center.Even though its small it will take and store 20 pictures CIF state ,80 pictures QCIF or about 1 min of video.Basicly clicks 80 pictures a min.Good camera for 25 dollars.Glad to help wheeler.

[ken_behrendt]

Ralph...

Here is a quick "test pattern" I made with Paint...it took LESS than two minutes! You can make a nearly perfect circle by clicking the ellipse icon and then using the cursor to "drag" out an "L" shape in the workspace (this exact same maneuver will creat an almost perfect polygon circle in WM2D).

It's possible, with a little practice, to make circles of any diameter and have them centered anywhere on the workspace. In the attached sketch, I made them concentric and used the paint bottle icon to fill them in with various colors.

Uploading scanned sketches will work, but I think if you practice a little with Paint that you'll find it much quicker.

Like Jim said, you can save the sketches you want to upload to these forums in a Desktop folder as .gif or .jpeg images. You merely have to click 'File', then click 'Save As...' after completing your sketch. On the screen that appears, you'll select your Desktop folder to save the image in. At the bottom where it says "untitled" you can put whatever name in for the image file you just completed. And, below that, you can click to save it as a .gif or .jpeg file type.

The problem with this board is that there is, I think, a 250 kb maximum size limit per post and most of the Paint sketches, if saved and uploaded as the default .bmp image files, will exceed this limit. Saving as a .gif or .jpeg image file kind of "crunches" the image data down into a more compact form.

Ralph, you have a lot of interesting ideas that we all would like to SEE in an image format...didn't someone once say that "a picture is worth a 1000 words"?

ken

[Georg Künstler]

the video to show on BW was to big, to I published the 'walker' under my homepage http://www.kuenstler-energie.de

there you find a walker.avi which has a size of 4 MB.

this video is to show the function: falling forward with a(n) hit(impact) on 8 o'clock.

It use only one weight per cylinder. Not the segmented cylinder.

the future has begun

Georg

[ken_behrendt]

Georg...

I went to your site and clicked the "Walker" avi link and...nothing happened! I let the PC sit for almost a 1/2 hour since I only have a 56 kbps modem and nothing downloaded.

I also think you have a coding problem on your homepage. I was only able to get half of a blank image area on the page and could not scroll it down to see the whole image area...

ken

[Wheeler]

George
I tried to draw what you have in this file attachment
Is this correct?
Please let me know.
Brent