It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than trying to solely profit

[rlortie]

IMO, any one considering running to the patent office first, should review the patent office regulations falling under the "National Security Act.

You may want to change your concept approach. I for one would not be in a big hurry until I had public recognition strong enough that the patent office could not conceal such a device under the above act without a public outcry.

Ralph

[rks1878]

Ralph. If that's the law, then that's the law.
If the gov't buries it, it may be a blessing in disguise for the inventor. Burial would protect the inventor from public outcry over some dern mortal charging money for using gravity. I'm sure it will be spun that way in some quarters.

[rlortie]

Yup! your probably right. After all I am still trying to get a patent on a wheelbarrow, after discovering that it was never patented.

Ralph

[jim_mich]

Patent on a wheelbarrow??? Ralph, you are joking, aren't you?

Any public "prior art" before a patent files will prevent you from being granted a patent. If your idea appears in a magazine, on a web page, at a trade show or someone is already using the idea anywhere before you file, then you are not the "first" inventor of that idea. So any ideas or devices that were in common use before the patent system developed are NOT patentable.

To get around the "National Security" gag order you file your well-written patent application and receive your receipt showing you have filed. Then you immediately disclose your idea to the world before the patent office has time to review your patent and issue a gag order. The patent office moves slowly, so you must move fast. You need to have everything ready before hand.

[Wheeler]

Jim_Mich
Thank you so much. I have been asking for years for a formula for how to proceed with this patent process and you simply answered it in one sentence.

A. Be prepared before you file, not after.

B. File application and when number is received download the information to the world fast.


I read in the book called Patent it Yourself, that if you use FedEx to deliver your patent application, that the number that they give you is your proof of application as soon as FedEx hands you your receipt.

[jim_mich]

Wheeler, DO NOT USE "FedEX" which is a private carrier, instead use the United States Postal Service "Express Mail" which will give you a receipt tracking number.

From page 10/10 of the 10th edition of Patent it Yourself

The PTO's Rule 10 (37 CFR 1.10) states, in effect, that mailing any paper to the PTO by Express Mail, with the Express Mail number on the transmittal letter, is the same as physically delivering the paper directly to the PTO.

You can also hand deliver your application to the patent office in Alexandria Virginia.

[Wheeler]

Thank you Jim_Mich

Would you consider starting a topic with the step by step discussion to the approach to follow?

[rks1878]

For something as eye catching as a PMM, I would get a professional to file the application.

I doubt that a PMM would be much of a threat to national security. The only concern along those lines that I would have would be that marijuana growers would have a cheap and silent way to produce enough power for their grow lights.

[Wheeler]

Robert
Have you considered the fact that if ppm were found and one country had it, others would want it?

I think it would be good for the world and I agree with Ken in some ways that it should be simply given to the world.

PPM is not something man can make, it exists in nature. It is a gift of god or the universe of knowledge.
We actually know how to do it already, but for some reason we have not.

PPM is a word we made up.
It has nothing to do with the simple fact that it was already there for us.

There is no reason to create confusion around it.

I think we are the last to know how it works, and why it is a gift to us.
We must study it and search to know it. Because we can use our minds, this is how the gift will appear for us.

It may very well be that if we seek profit or fame, we will fail. This may be the reason JB did not succeed to sell it.

It is right in front of us now.

[rks1878]

If God Almighty wants it to be a freebie, then he will reveal the secret to Ken or Wheeler.
If he wants to go the "evil" capitalist route, he will reveal it to a rich industrialist like me..

[Wheeler]

This is not to say I am not open to fortune.
Maybe God will make you share it with Ken and
He will feel guilty and share some with me.

[rks1878]

Wheeler:

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

I assure you the right and fair things will be done.

[ovyyus]

PPM is not something man can make, it exists in nature. It is a gift of god or the universe of knowledge.
We actually know how to do it already, but for some reason we have not

Pure speculation! There is no evidence that PM exists in nature, otherwise we would have something to copy. Offer some evidence of PM in Nature, that doesn't involve solar power.

There is also no evidence that PM exists in Bessler's wheel either - again, more speculation! Obviously a clear difference exists between those who simply want to solve Bessler's wheel and those who want to prove that gravity PM is possible.

Science vs Cult - which will win? Stay tuned for the final dramatic episode coming soon to a theatre near you :)

[jim_mich]

I doubt that a PMM would be much of a threat to national security.

Federal and state gas tax is very big money! Any form of free energy threatens a loss of tax revenue. Free energy is also a threat to national security. Wars are lost when a nation cannot supply its armies with fuel. An army supplied with unlimited free energy is a very big threat.

So free energy is a threat to both national security and national economy.

[rks1878]

"So free energy is a threat to both national security and national economy. "

Jim Mich


I doubt it.
Once the particulars are gleaned from the patent office, anyone can build a PMM like J.E.E.B.'s.
Just don't try manufacturing and selling them without a license.

P.S.
The Sky is falling.