Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel

[Sam Peppiatt]

Follow up,
The rollers don't suffer from an energy budget that jb always talks about, from resetting. Energy from the rollers is virtually unlimited. That's the good news. The bad news is; when the slave rollers roll forwards the prime mover rolls backwards; all the forces cancel out, leaving the wheel perfectly balanced.

So, the goal is to find a way, or ways, to fix the problem. Not sure what the new changes will do---Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

Making new parts,
I've made a lot of changes but, still uncertain if it will work or not. I realized that if the outer weights were converted to inverted pendulums, it would be instantly reversible. Just by giving the wheel a flip one way or the other. For what ever that's worth--------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

Theory of operation,
The theory; is quite similar to that of a water wheel. A weighted wheel is placed into the center of the wheel. Barrowing from argo95; "a wheel within a wheel", if you will. As the outer wheel rotates, the inner wheel rolls continuously down hill, much the same as water in a river runs down hill. In this way, GPE is raised continuously.

This energy then can be used to shift weights out at the rim of the wheel to keep it turning, maybe-------Sam

ETA In a way you still use levers or leverage, it's just that it has to be done continuously.

[Georg Künstler]

Hi Sam,
here I have some constructions for you which are using the wheel in wheel construction.
Search in youtube with @Georgkuenstler or with @georgkuenstler3108

and learn from the constructions. Analyse the movement,
It will save you some money for your next buildt.

[Sam Peppiatt]

Georg,
I gave it a shot. No match; but I'm an idiot when it comes to computers------------Sam

[SHADOW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tdDaZRrHM

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC616BX ... W87Ze-J-fQ

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hNygez_Qn8E

[thx4]

and learn from the constructions. Analyse the movement,
It will save you some money for your next buildt.

“Learn from my constructions”, You really don't take yourself for shit and yet...One thing's for sure the only thing missing is the smell.
Don't waste your time with this clown.

[Sam Peppiatt]

Thanks SHADOW!
I see Georg. I knew you had done a lot of work on wheel in a wheel. I like the one with the wooden rods, looks like about 80 of them evenly spaced. How did you ever do that?

My thinking is; the inner wheel can't turn the outer wheel by it's self. But, maybe if you could couple the inner wheel in the center, to pendulums out near the rim, it would work.

The idea is to use the inner wheel, as a motor with gears and roller chain, to keep the outer weights shifting, (in on the up side and out on the down side), then they turn the wheel------------------Sam

(thx4 I didn't save any money)

[nebollinger]

Below is clearly bottom heavy. That is the first thing I look for.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hNygez_Qn8E
Norman

[Sam Peppiatt]

Norman,
No, rollers never become bottom heavy. In this regard they are similar to pendulums. As long as the rollers stay centered in there rings the wheel will be perfectly or at least, well balanced--------------------Sam

[Georg Künstler]

Hi Sam,
what I liked to show with this construction that we get an syncronized swinging, oscillation, of all weights swing in the same direction.
The weights oscillate in both directions and as result we get no net torque to turn the wheel.
I have tried to block the swinging in that way that they cannot reswing.

I have now solved this issue.
The weights will always roll automatically to one side of the wheel and generate torque.

[Sam Peppiatt]

Georg,
How did you do it------------------Sam