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I think he's a fraud.
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[quote="Grimer"]Since my hearing isn't too brilliant I asked my grandson, George, to make a transcript of the DOMINANT FLYWHEEL video for me .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3I2zeo ... e=youtu.be

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Oh come now Frank, you've been looking at this particular area of Madness for decades now, you've seen fakes, fakes and more fakes.

On the first run, the rortor is slowing down and about to stall when the bloke put's his finger on it to "stop" it.

On the other run, the final one, less tension, faster rpm, and the device is moved all around the table. You heard of super mags, coils, stuff under the table ? Ralf can explain Hall effect to you if you need.
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He's obviously smart enough to know that this is considered impossible according to accepted physics ,
therefore he is smart enough to know that he could get easy money by selling the device to people who believe ,
therefore since he doesn't he is a dishonest liar,
who gets his jollies by taking advantage of peoples willingness to trust .

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Tarsier79 wrote:I am positive he said it did, otherwise I wouldn't have moved on without even attempting a build. Perhaps you and I saw slightly different videos of the same device.
Do you still think he said it?
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Nic wrote:
Ralf can explain Hall effect to you if you need.
I am not Ralf, this is Ralph; You will find all you need to know "Hall effect" here.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hall+ef ... 8&oe=utf-8

And no! I do not believe there are any magnetic field under the table. I do however see something suspicious on the table top, maybe only spilled paint?

For the longest run, i would attempt finding the right resonate vibration in the spring.

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Sorry Ralph, my mistake and I won't even pretend it was a typo. At 3min 39 secs , the operator moves the device and it immediately speeds up. Listen to the clicks. If your hearing isn't as good as it used to be, pull the sound track into a freeware called "Audacity" and you'll see the clicks as a wave form. The peaks suddenly get closer together :-(
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Listen to this speed up when the operator moves it above the "sweet spot" . Compare the sound bite to the original vid, it's exactly the same, just amplified a few db to make it louder . The speed up happens when the device is moved, just above a given point on the surface.

https://youtu.be/-njnHB18JdM

So, I've just wasted 20 minutes of my life. You Guys owe me.

Please, don't be taken in by confusing the increase in volume as the device is pulled nearer the microphone or towards the mic , and the speed of the clicks. The increase happens when the operator has his hand on it and has already started moving the device. Don't get confused by op sayin "move it around" because the moving around is already underway. How this is done I don't know, but a few forum members will be able to guess.
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Suspicious mark on the table ? The big circle ? Shiny ? I can only think of a sclextric type copper tape if there's anything with that mark. Impossible to tell, moving the machine around could even be some sort of "friction drive". How would I know ?
rlortie wrote:Nic wrote:
Ralf can explain Hall effect to you if you need.
I am not Ralf, this is Ralph; You will find all you need to know "Hall effect" here.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hall+ef ... 8&oe=utf-8

And no! I do not believe there are any magnetic field under the table. I do however see something suspicious on the table top, maybe only spilled paint?

For the longest run, i would attempt finding the right resonate vibration in the spring.

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Mistake
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IF I was going to fake a small rotating wheel on video, you'd see the covering hiding the 'secret mechanism' inside while it spins merrily away.
What you wouldn't see is the hair dryer off to the side blowing air onto the wheel's edge to make it spin... ;-)
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It is a bit frustrating seeing people here get so excited about such an obvious fake.

Remember the v-gate permanent magnet motor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwus

Well, here's the confession made at overunity.com of the fellow who faked that one:

http://overunity.com/10034/new-permanen ... #msg304550

Here is an image where he shows how he faked it:

http://overunity.com/10034/new-permanen ... 43/image//

To summarize, he was an experimenter himself who couldn't get his device to work, so he just faked the thing running as a joke and uploaded it to youtube, with "joke" being his word for it.

Of course, after what I've seen in the "free energy" community, I wouldn't be surprised if some now think that his more recent "confession" is the lie about a real working device because the MIBs, the PTBs, got to him and threatened his life and that of his family!

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This isn't a magnetic motor. It is simpler than that.

It seems to me that you have ignored my arguments as to why it could work. Why don't you address them.

Is the calculus involved in the third derivative of position with respect to time too much for you?

For instance: is the rotating cam effectively a rotating pendulum or not?

When stationary, will it keel or not?

Ignore bearing friction, we are talking principles.

Yes or no - and if no, why.

If it's not a fake, and you're libelling of the builder by implication is unjustified, then you are in danger of throwing away a pearl of great price.

13:45. Again the kingdom of heaven is like to a merchant seeking good pearls.

13:46. Who when he had found one pearl of great price, went his way, and sold all that he had, and bought it.


Elsewhere you claim,
Anyway, maybe due to my choices ... I actually do now have some interesting things I could share with the world of not just a technical nature but seemingly also of historical and "religious" ones, too.
I hope they include assuming people are innocent of fraud, a sin against the 8th commandment, until proved guilty beyond all reasonable doubt.
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eccentrically1 wrote:I think he's a fraud.
Why do you think this? I've reviewed the video several times and also read Frank's transcript. I don't see any fraud here. I don't see PM either. If there were any extra energy then the device would accelerate. It doesn't.
Listen to this speed up when the operator moves it above the "sweet spot" .
Someone else noticed this also way up stream of this. I forget who they were and couldn't find the quote.
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Someone else noticed this also way up stream of this. I forget who they were and couldn't find the quote.
I think you may be thinking of VINA's email to me. I have emboldened the relevant passage.

Wow.
I've got to admit that is impressive.
If a con a very good one.
It must have spare energy if it can run that long with such a small start and obvious expenditure of noise and friction. Even much larger balanced wheels on very good bearings don't run for that long with no noise or rubbing and you can see that they are always slowing. I know, I messed with this stuff for 2 years. This tiny wheel shows no sign of slowing. It reaches a steady pace and holds it and even seems to speedup at times. It seems to slow and speed to find an equilibrium. He's only got 168 subscribers so there's no obvious motive for cheating.
Grimer, when you offer crap I tell you. This is a quality find. That said, if this thing runs for 24 hours even this simple sounding mechanic would surely realise he'd invented PM. If nothing else this would make a fortune as a business desktop toy.
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WaltzCee wrote:If there were any extra energy then the device would accelerate. It doesn't.
The builder gives the flywheel a spin which takes the device above its equilibrium speed. The speed then oscillates until equilibrium is reached. Initially it falls below equilibrium, rises above , falls below....with ever decreasing amplitude. VINA correctly interpreted the rise you saw as part of the speed oscillation towards equilibrium.

The fact that it does accelerate towards equilibrium is evidence that there is extra energy which stops the slowdown in its tracks.
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