Another gravity wheel?

[Jon J Hutton]

Yet another wm2d that turns .......this one is set on wind high......but I think it might be a wm2d quirk using magnets coupled with a pendulum to produce about 30 rpm.

[Jon J Hutton]

Hmmm. I take that back...not a quirk but it would sure be a hard build.

[Jon J Hutton]

Ok guys, your scaring me.....its been downloaded many times and no one has made a comment.

I think there are many unexplored simple ideas that work but it takes a persistent person to unravel them.

[Wheeler]

JJH
Tried to download.
NO go
WM2D demo only for many of us.
Can you take a snap image of it and paste it on the forum?

[ME]

What do you want to hear, it is a pendulum... I don't recognize a SMOT in it. I hoped someone else had something more fruitfull to say..

[Jon J Hutton]

Wheeler,

I would have to put up an animation to give you a clear picture, although it is a very simple idea, one pin joint, one track, a pendulum with a counterbalance, and 2 magnets the motion is a bit complicated to explain. If someone wants to copy (picture) it (I can´t do that on this computer)or post the animation of it feel free to do so.....I´m interested in your comments to see if it warrants a build. Since it is technically a pendulum there is only one resistance point to be concerned about the rest is a question of balance, magnet strength ,and position.

[Jon J Hutton]

Me,

Simple Magnetic overunity toy.........It uses one magnet and turns perpetually about 30 revs per minute. I think that qualifies it as a smot. Its one of the simplist designs I could come up with (only 13 kb). Do you think its worth the build.

[Wheeler]

May I call you JJ

I was thinking that Jim Mich may be able to paste it on the forum for you.
I do not know if he has time, but I think he has the full wm2d.

However you can draw it on paintbrush.
Also you should be able to copy the image with just about any computer.

Anything is possible.
We are at the beginning of the unfolding of the physics that have been considered unthinkable.

I wish I knew wm2d like the others, but I just am too busy inventing and working to stop and learn it now.

A magnet is a power source, this I know too.
I think you will suceed if you continue testing.
I tested over 5000 different ways to find my answers.
The way is clear to me (use math)!

And can you guess what math process to use?

[ME]

Animated..

"its worth the build?": i guess it can't hurt.

[Wheeler]

Thanks Me
This will not work.
It tends to go to unlike poles and will keel after so many hits of N/S.
It will always try to lock at N/S
You can try to set it up with like poles, but this I do not think will work.
You can test this easy with a pencil on a pin stuck to a wall.
Use weight at one end, and magnet taped or glued to the other.
glue a simple axel(simple pin) dead center on the magnet that spins.
It only looks like it will work.

Unlike our favorite 2 legged opposite, where we can go on and on.
This test is simple attraction and thats the end of it.

[ME]

I think it's a bit like this kind of mobiles.
(The sim was without friction.)

[Wheeler]

yes
placing a magnet in the path of a pendulum, will slow the swing, not help it.

It may be possible to make the magnet spin in perfect timing and have the weights so exact that they would make this happen. However this I think has been the study for centuries.

I think Howard Johnsons Magnet motor used this over the top system of timing if I remember correctly.

[Jon J Hutton]

Wheeler and others,
I agree that placing a magnet in the path of a pendulum wont help, but, look again at what is happening with the curved slot. It is pulling the pendulum out of the way of the magnet allowing the top heavy weight to start its kenetic path. I added slot friction of 1.95 and max wind moved the magnet and it starts slow, speeds, dosent keel.

JJ

[Jon J Hutton]

here is the wm2d version

[ME]

Wow, getting better!!
Radial velocity 4.25 (+/- 0.4) rads/sec