My Version of Bessler's Riddle

[rlortie]

Alex,

Is that by William Kendrick and are you sure it is not "Kenrick"? Hopefully it is a typo error and is the latter.

If you have downloaded "A Lecture on the Perpetual Motion" by William Kenrick speaking of "sliders", then you know more than I.

You may have found one of the missing segments (hopefully part three) of his disquisition that a number of people have been looking for.

Where and how did you get hold of this lecture, if on the net, can you please please post the link.

Kenrick died three weeks after filing for a patent, the only record was a letter from the attorney general on May 19, 1779, verbatim:

"For the exclusive benefit of a discovery of mechanical principle of self-motion, for the construction of machines which acquire a constant supply of power from the action of gravity on themselves only"...

Published in Gentleman's Magazine & Historical Chronicle.
London:Sylvanus Urban, May 1779, Vol.49,p.269

Also ref; PM by Dircks, Volume I,p,178

Ralph

[Andyb]

Yes yes,please do post a link.

[DrWhat]

Go to https://play.google.com/books

You may need to log in to your google account if you have one.

then search for "A Lecture on the Perpetual Motion"

And you will find the whole thing.

It is indeed interesting.

Damian

[zoelra]

This may also be what you are looking for. The link below is to page 33. Go about 2/3 the way down. He starts talking about weights rather than liquids.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004873 ... ;view=text

Near the end of page 35 he says "It is on the mechanical advantages to be taken of this difference between the real and relative weight of bodies that the perpetual motion is founded." A link to that page is below.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004873 ... ;view=text

[getterdone]

Wow, these are exiting times .

[getterdone]

..on the subject of sliders, I think he was referring to something like these ones at the perimeter of the spokes

.http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/downl ... er=user_id

As always I reserve the right to be wrong.

[getterdone]

Second attempt lol

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/files ... c10005.jpg

[rlortie]

Thanks for the link zoelra!

I have parts and pieces of Kenrick's works, but not all of it. I will have to read the whole book and see if that which is missing shows up.

Some seekers, low on initiative may find page four of interest, it relates to some of my assertions in my recent posts.

Ralph

[Alexioco]

Ive read it through and studied parts and it is very interesting. The principle he gives is simple but I just cant understand the sliders. You can download it as a PDF file.

Thanks for the extra information Ralph. I will investigate also. I believe I have understood how the principal actually works but Ive lost count how many times Ive thought that thought before! Its too easy to just make a claim. Im going to begin building.

Ralph is there any more information I can drink? :)

P.s The "d" was a typo :)

Thanks again, speak soon.

Alex

[smith66]

Bessler claimed a perpetual motion wheel. He never claimed a gravity wheel.

Bessler said that his wheel was rotated using weights. Many people assume that the gravity force of the weights rotated Bessler' wheel. But Bessler said the weights gained force from their moving/swinging. He never said they gained force from their gravity force.

>> But Bessler said the weights gained force from their moving/swinging. <<

And yet without gravity, how could the above statement be true ? Sometimes it is best not to over look the obvious.

As to the lecture that was mentioned; Nay, by means of a vessel of different areas, at different heights, as a barrel with a perpendicular pipe carried through its head: if the head of the barrel be moveable and yet water-tight, a little water, poured into the pipe, will actually raise up a vast weight laid upon the head of the barrel.
There is this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPXBY0Bx0Iw
and this; http://www.mrwaynesbrain.com/

edited to shorten original quote and add references to subject of lecture.