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That would be nice, but you can get the same claim now from computer software.
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...or from people. Such claim still needs serious verification.
The ultimate computer is an analog one. It might be a bit pixelated at the atomic level and thereby also pixelating velocity/time and energy but ultimately that's where we want this program to reside, in reality. No one wants proof offered by any man-made digital computer with its inherent bias & lack of resolution, much less in a faith of man-made opinion. Expectations are for something real, not virtual.

I'm going to get back to building my computer just as soon as I can figure out how to create and destroy mass and energy. I want to do it at twice the speed of light. Believe me when I tell you I'm this close to figuring it out . . .
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Exactly. Proof is in real life, once you have a physical working model, only then can a computer simulation "prove" what actually happens and why it works, not before.

Computers aren't smart enough, can't comprehend, can't rationalise, can't form opinions or perform complex reasoning. Their thinking can't naturally evolve, nor learn from their mistakes. There is no real intelligence in AI. Due to their limitations, computers will only find an answer if we give them the parameters to do so.
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I meant:
Believe me, when I tell you I'm this close to figuring it out, you can take that as man-made opinion and act accordingly.
Pesky commas.
Jagoda wrote:Then the computer program could back track or reverse engineer by arranging combinations from a library of mechanical devices until it found the combination that would produce the answer.
These mechanical devices could be reduced to mathematical expressions and so far we don't know what components (and hence the mechanics) would produce the resultant of a perpetually spinning wheel that can overcome frictions and also produce work, that is without adding some energy to the mix.

Hope that helps.
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WaltzCee wrote:
ME wrote:...or from people. Such claim still needs serious verification.
The ultimate computer is an analog one. [...] Expectations are for something real, not virtual. . . .
I specifically didn't mention "computers" for precisely this reason !
Must be the "comma's" I guess??

"Serious verification" means a real-life build, but a real-life built which can be verified by anyone else....
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Marchello is one of two members here that I have shared my molecular mass design with. I chose him for his integrity and apparent empirical skills with computers. I figured that with my limited knowledge, he would be the one capable of computer analyzing my design.

Both members having access could only respond with their concern of coefficient of friction. Apparently neither could find any other problems with my concept. The friction concern has been significantly reduced and no longer should present a problem.

If it can be done, Marchello has my invitation to accept the opportunity of simulating it. This I would consider a challenging job as it involves fluid mechanics and dynamics in three dimensions.

All I ask is that he not reveal the concept or any part of the design until authorized by me.

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Thank you, Walter, for throwing a wet blanket on my idea.

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You're welcome, Jagoda, but I don't deserve all the credit. I was only the bearer of the wet blanket. It's Mr. Reality's blanket.

If the analog computer of a wheel were given a brain. Then we could fool it.
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