SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Concept -drawing 091018

[raj]

Hello Fletcher,

It's a single wheel concept, with simplest connectivity.

Raj

[raj]

My Self-Rotating Wheel concept uses one or more swinging pendulums/weights pivoting separately on AXLE OF WHEE, in vertical circular orbit/path.

Where can I find any OTHER drawing/s and/or descriptions of winging pendulums/weights pivoting separately on axle of wheel in vertical circular orbit/path?

Raj

[BesslerInterested]

Raj,
I really enjoy following your designs, but they are sometimes difficult to understand.
I do not exactly get it how it turns and what the hooks do with the weights and the pendulums...
Could you do multiple drawings, which show every step of the Wheel for one revolution?
Someone could do an animation gif.
You go for patent without a physically build wheel and patenting just the theory of possibility first?

[raj]

Normal patenting does not require a working machine. It is only a safeguard of IP, during the years it can takes to bring your machine to market.

Remember, I am not referring to PMM.

That is, I never submit my patent application as PMM, even though the description and drawing is what can be my PMM concept.

Raj

[raj]

I have a long wait before attempting any proper concept testing.

In the meantime, some crude concept testing is ongoing.

This is a picture of a physical concept testing I did today, using only two pendulums/weights, one going up and one coming down.

Raj

[raj]

Continuing regardless.

raj

[justsomeone]

Raj, if you were to come up with a design that had 8 weights, all the same distance from the axle, and the design always kept 5 weights on one side and 3 on the other, it would still not work. The three rising weights would always have to be lifted much faster, which takes more energy and would wipe out whatever overbalance you had. Good luck anyway. 😊

[raj]

@ Justsomeone,

The pendulums/bobs/weights are lifted in a flash from before the 11 o'clock position is reached when the wheel rotates, to impact pegs on rim at 12 o'clock position, helping the wheel to move forward.

There is no extra energy needed to lift the weights on the ascending side. There is sufficient elastic potential energy accumulated in the springs/elastic cords, as they stretch pulling the weights against gravity on the ascending side, only to retract and pull the weights upwards and horizontally, once they reach a reasonable horizontal position, about the 11.00 o'clock position to pull the weights in a flash, and causing the impact at 12.00 oclock.

If you look at the pictures, of my very crude physical model, you should notice the distances between the weights.
See the distance between the two top weights at the 12 o'clock position and the two bottom weights at the 6 o'clock position.

That should say something about torque on the wheel at any given time.

Picture 1 is the start and resetting position, every 45 degrees turn of wheel.
Picture 2 shows wheel after 22.5 degrees turn clockwise.
Picture 3 shows wheel after 45 degrees turn clockwise.
Raj

[justsomeone]

Raj, when ever a spring or elastic cord is stretched, there is equal presure on the other end of the spring. Most of the time that pull is against your desired rotation. I apologize if I am not clear on my take of your wheel. Anyone else want to chime in?

[raj]

" SPRINGS/elastic cords don't INCLUDE force due to GRAVITY"

Raj

[phj]

Raj, when ever a spring or elastic cord is stretched, there is equal presure on the other end of the spring. Most of the time that pull is against your desired rotation. I apologize if I am not clear on my take of your wheel. Anyone else want to chime in?

Exactly. And thats actually what you want to gain in a true runner. You will have the outward weight to drag the inward weight in a "wobbling" type of effect, on a special lever.
I have actually build a simulation that works this way.

[raj]

A Self-Rotating Wheel Concept testing CRUDELY BUILT complete model.

This is to allow forum members to visualize my concept.

It's the best build I can do on my own.

Model is still not in compliance with FULL concept.

Awaiting professional BUILD. NO RUSH for now!

Raj

[justsomeone]

Raj, I don't see a lot of friction in your build. This model should be adequate to prove or disprove your theory. Let us know how the tests go.

[Georg Künstler]

Hi Raj,
you have a great chance that it will work if you meet the natural frequency of the Swinging.
In German we will say 'hau ruck' translated in english 'beat Jerk'.

Have a look to the characteristic of the Swinging.
If you have a complete Sinus shape, your advantage of torque will be lost.

Deform the characteristic.

But I think you know it now, how to manipulate this.
Very good work to learn more about the manipulated Swinging.

[raj]

A Self-Rotating Wheel would need a clockwork precision build and synchronization to sustain rotation.

My model shown here, even though it is showing very good positive signs, is not MY final proof of concept.

Raj