Gene wrote:
I'm considering the riddle of a lifetime. You might be also. If energy can't be created what made Bessler's wheel move? Rest mass my a$$.
Well, the energy Bessler's wheels outputted had to come from somewhere if the 1st Law of Thermodynamics is to remain inviolate. One of the consequences of Einsteinian relativity theory is that some of the mass of two objects will be converted into kinetic energy as they "fall" toward each other under the action of gravity. However, I think it is a major mistake to assume that Bessler's wheels could have somehow "extracted" energy from the Earth's gravity field. A gravity "field" is only a mathematical abstraction...it has no energy of its own that can be tapped. Gravity can only serve to faciliate the release of stored up rest mass energy in an object and nothing more. After that rest mass energy is removed from an object, that object then will display lesser gravitational and inertial properties because the object is then less massive. This is a real phenomenon. Every second of every day, our sun is
losing thousands of tons of mass from the various subatomic particles that compose it. That energy then streams off into space as mostly electromagnetic energy.
I've been looking at paired weights for some time.
Again, there is a clarity issue here. How do you define the word "paired". Are you talking about
two weights on diametrically
opposite sides of a gravity wheel? Or, are you referring to two weights in close proximity to each other on the
same side of the wheel? Also, are the two weights in one of your "pairs" of equal or different mass?
Ralph wrote:
Now in good faith I will keep my promise. yes I am talking about moving the weight via short cut through the center of the wheel. Why for 300 years has the majority insisted that what goes around with a wheel, must come around with it. How do you make such a move you may ask, well that is where the pairs come in handy.
I think you are suggesting a very complicated mechanism for Bessler's wheels for which there is no evidence of existence, but, at least, some evidence for not existing.
Bessler wrote that he allowed his friends to "grope" the internal axle of his wheels. I do not believe that he would have done so if he had some sort of mechanism there that would move weights through or immediately around the axle.
Also, and most importantly, as we learned from my past failed design for the "Spacer Ball Injector" device, there is no difference in the
magnitude of the
change in gravitational potential energy between a weight dropping from the top to bottom of a wheel along its rim and one that ascends from bottom to top through the center of the wheel. That is, any gravitational potential energy lost and kinetic energy thereby gained by the drop will exactly
equal the gravitational potential energy gained and kinetic energy lost by the ascent of a weight. Therefore, this approach can not be used to allow a gravity wheel to display a net output of energy to its environment.
The only approach that I think is viable is the one that seeks to find a mechanism that manages to chronically maintain the CG of a system of rotating weights to one side of the wheel's axle. That system will benefit from a motion smoothing "flywheel effect" by keeping the weights as close to the wheel's rim as possible.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
