The origin of the GRAVITATION.

[WaltzCee]

I searched

• Gravity powered wheel based on Fluid-air displacement

following a link TAS posted about this amazing build

and also found this contraption.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zenn0VD2Bo

Wow.

and a google patent

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7573147B2/en

[Mikhail]

So what??

[Tarsier79]

So what??

Both Infinity-Sav's device and Your device work on the same basic premise. Both are flawed the same way.
Infinity-Sav uses an air compressor to pump air down into the water. The compressor uses more energy than is produced by the machine.
Your device replaces the air compressor with a weight, which uses more energy to pre-load than the device will produce.

[WaltzCee]

Thank you.

I'm not going to prove anything. I don't sell anything, but give for nothing, the planet is overheating, floods and fires are destroying cities, villages and forests are suffering and people are dying and we have to react, I think it's not too late. If anyone needs clean energy in unlimited quantities, and moreover, if anyone is going to make money from it, let them bother to design, count and verify. He can even paint them all the colors of the rainbow, the engines are open and free, everyone is free to use. I did what I could and I won't do it again.

and thank you Mikhail. You have a good heart. You wanted to spread your idea and it seems that is happening.

You go hero!!

[Mikhail]

Both Infinity-Sav's device and Your device work on the same basic premise. Both are flawed the same way.
Infinity-Sav uses an air compressor to pump air down into the water. The compressor uses more energy than is produced by the machine.
Your device replaces the air compressor with a weight, which uses more energy to pre-load than the device will produce.

You still haven't understood how my engines work.

and thank you Mikhail. You have a good heart. You wanted to spread your idea and it seems that is happening.

You go hero!!

Yes. So what ?

[WaltzCee]

Yes. So what ?

Well, my guess is your vision for saving the earth and humanity is slowly moving into the future.

Mission accomplished buddy!! You are a success.

[Mikhail]

I know.
But how do you know?

[WaltzCee]

an example of a clarkson:

• God creates, man discovers.

and when man discovered how to create he assumed he could be as a god in his creation and occulted the how.

In this chicken-egg scenario, it is mathematically provable what (of necessity) has to come first.

Would you be interested in working out squaring the circle next? I want to include a chapter in my book about that. I'll give you the credit also royalties as a function of some agreeable percentage of the gross of the first printing.

Let me think about that. Any percentage of the gross can be used used to out leverage me out of possession of my book!!

No. No. Make that a percentage of the net. I see no profit, then no profit for you. Your throne will never exceed mine.

[Mikhail]

an example of a clarkson:

• God creates, man discovers.

and when man discovered how to create he assumed he could be as a god in his creation and occulted the how.

God created man and did not patent the invention. Now every fool can do the same without paying a license. )

Would you be interested in working out squaring the circle next?

No!

Your throne will never exceed mine.

I don't need a throne.

[WaltzCee]

Every kingdom needs a throne.

why are you trying to build a kingdom?

Edit:

But how do you know?

Because you told me and I believed you.

[WaltzCee]

an example of a clarkson:

• God creates, man discovers.

and when man discovered how to create he assumed he could be as a god in his creation and occulted the how.

• God created man and did not patent the invention. Now every fool can do the same without paying a license. )

. .. .. .

I'll take that under advisement.

[Mikhail]

Every kingdom needs a throne.

why are you trying to build a kingdom?

I do not create any kingdom and did not intend to. I am a retired old man.

[Tarsier79]

You still haven't understood how my engines work.

No, but I do understand why it doesn't work.

I don't sell anything, but give for nothing, the planet is overheating, floods and fires are destroying cities, villages and forests are suffering and people are dying and we have to react, I think it's not too late. If anyone needs clean energy in unlimited quantities, and moreover, if anyone is going to make money from it, let them bother to design, count and verify. He can even paint them all the colors of the rainbow, the engines are open and free, everyone is free to use.

You can build a thousand non-working mechanisms, but they won't power a single light bulb. Unfortunately, it is no solution.

[Mikhail]

You still haven't understood how my engines work.

No, but I do understand why it doesn't work.

If you understand why it won't work then explain. Only not with words, but with calculations and their results.

[agor95]

4. The presence in space of cosmological radiation, with low speeds, is a consequence of their dissipation in space. Again because of friction that causes a reduction in speed with their distance.
Therefore photons of light, thus slowed down, until their speeds become relatively low.

This constitutes dark energy (or the missing mass) of the Universe.

An alternative description

The vacuum of space is not empty, but is filled with particles and energy.
This substance resembles that of a ideal gas (or liquid), in which matter can move without friction.

Note. friction (friction is proportional to speed), but friction does not reach zero.

You are right an assumptive guess [conjecture] is a persons opinion.

I expect the concept that the reddening [red shift] of light caused by light travelling great distances through the Universe is assumption.
So it can be proposed to be cause by different effects and it's hard to prove
which is the correct.

I have assumed 'cosmological radiation' are particles travelling at high speeds. This radiation is harmful, however the heliosphere [suns atmosphere] and the Earths atmosphere acts as protection.
We get the results from these particles colliding with the above barriers.
It's difficult to use 'cosmological radiation' to prove anything other than it exists.

That said light travels at different speeds dependent of the medium it is in.
So speed in air, water and space are not the same.

Logically light in space may find regions that effect it's speed that reduce it's rate of transmission.
Then go through another local area were it reaches maximum speed again.

It would be interesting to know in the wave length changes at the interfaces between air and water.

It's just an opinion that 'cosmological radiation' particles can be slowed down and converted by collision into slower particles. But light is a propagation like a pebble in a pond. I recommend creating a pond with a shallow section.
You should find the waves move faster in the deep section and the waves slows down and increases frequency in the shallow sector.

Thus the ripples will not be circular around the initial pebble impact point.

Note. Dark Energy is a 'We do not know what it is' way around why the Universe appears to be accelerating apart. However if another property of space causes the 'Red Shift' due to distance. Then there is no need for Dark Energy.

Of cause reduction in the apparent brightness of far distant supernova would have to be taken into account. However some photons should be taken out by collisions with actual & virtual particles.

I also think Dark Matter is so hard to find as it is not matter in the first place.
That is another conjecture.

Your alternative description is fine as the vacuum of space is a sea of virtual particles and electric potentials. With actual particle speeding by in it's supper conductive friction free form.

Regards