Donald Trump 2016?

[WaltzCee]

The collision of words.

1) My point of mentioning Hitler's appeal to the authority of science wasn't a rejection of
science. It is a rejection of Hitler's conclusions. Hitler might be any authoritarian from
Marx to the pope but particularly their understandings.

2) My point of rejecting a vaccine is that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Covid has a 99.8% survival
rate. I have an incredibly strong immune system. I rarely get sick. It has nothing to do
with fear, however there is a bit a lack of trust in these geniuses. See point 1.

3) My point of mentioning Biden and the 25th amendment is now I'm hearing in
mainstream media mentions of Joe's obvious cognative frailities.

4) My point of mentioning fireworks was that I could see them from my window.

ETA:

The CARES Act authorized a temporary 20 percent increase in reimbursements from
Medicare for COVID-19 patients to account for both anticipated and unanticipated
increases in the cost of care for these medically complex patients," explained Dr. Summer
McGee, dean of the School of Health Sciences at the University of New Haven.

I've heard reports that in America that we've escaped the flu this season. Some think those
cases were rolled into the covid ones. Also most likely there were more cases of covid than
were tested/reported. Also I've heard reporting the CDC has reported only 6% of the deaths
attributed to covid only had covid.

In short, I doubt the stats and am willing to accept I'll never know.

[Tarsier79]

Covid has a 99.8% survival rate

According to Google:

Total cases
96.2M

Recovered
53.1M

Deaths
2.06M

Perhaps it has 99.8% in a first world country with a reasonable to well functioning health system. Even if it was, I suspect that argument is little comfort to the families of the 2 million dead.

[Fletcher]

I think the point of taking the vaccine is that it gives you a primed immune response to CV19 so it can't take hold of your cells. And its probably no worse than getting a flue jab, which does the same thing.

What's not well known yet, but highly suspected, is that if you have the vax then you won't pass on CV19 to some unsuspecting person, who perhaps is health compromised or older etc.

[ovyyus]

Vaccines usually don't prevent infection, they prevent disease.

[eccentrically1]

globally, the death rate is 2.146594 %.
In the US, it's 1.668294%.
Here is the website for the latest on individual regions and their charts.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... cle_inline

The long term effects aren't completely known yet , even if you don't get seriously ill. There are reported cases of people having symptoms for months, and even when they think they are well, they still have trouble breathing, memory issues, and other problems. My friends who have robust immune systems that have gotten it say it's not a joke, it's the sickest they've ever been.

[daxwc]

It’s not even just about the jab, it is now evaded all spheres of academy. Science is the new religion and it is really about control. If your research isn’t slanted into their agenda you don’t get grant money. If your research comes to conclusions they don’t want to see you are muzzled. Climate change, space, biology and even all the way to race… just tow the line.

[agor95]

Did you know with the money being printed too create a covid vaccine a vaccine has been created for malaria?

Where there is no profit in development it does not happen.
However we humanity in this great effort have created new skills by working together.

I hope we deal with the money debt bubble our financial system has created.

For example UK national debt was around 500 billion in 2001 it's now 2+ Trillion in 2021 and rising.

There are financial models that are not based on ever increasing debt.

All the Best

[rasselasss]

A veiled threat to Trump on Twitter by the leader in Iran should have some sort of response from Biden instead he intends opening up talks with them on the agreement by Obama, does it show weakness or is "jaw-jaw "better than "war-war"...

[ME]

science is the Democrats strong suit, that is as long as it fits into their agenda.

That's a very sad take...
Making stuff up without anything to back it up seems to be the alternative.

If your research isn’t slanted into their agenda you don’t get grant money.

Normally this "granted money" is all about "socialism"... unless it's part of making some uninformed statement.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02 ... -ink-again
It's never easy getting sufficient resources for stuff you can only verify if it was worth it afterwards.

My point of rejecting a vaccine is that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Covid has a 99.8% survival
rate. I have an incredibly strong immune system. I rarely get sick. It has nothing to do
with fear, however there is a bit a lack of trust in these geniuses.

0.2% is about a third on top of the normal mortality rate without Covid. I think that's significant.

So you accept 0.2% deaths of the population while the rest may carry that stuff around asymptomatically (Even young kids are now found to be carrier)
The longer it roams the population the more chance of mutation, the more chance it gets deadlier (UK- and South Africa, Brazilian- variants).

So you also accept that either the hospital beds are taken by Covid-patients (because of humanitarian reason).
But then your (statistically happening) broken bone or cancer treatment or whatever can't happen either.
Maybe instead, you let almost a million people die horrible death without any help.

The vaccine is the attempt to help your immune system to protect yourself, your family members with a lesser immune system, your neighbors... until the replication factor goes below 1 and dies out.


How do we know, science. It's not perfect, who says it is? Not those scientists.
Yet guessing, as demonstrated in full color by the previous US administration, is a failed alternative: https://youtu.be/tpnjIyfmiG8?t=512

[WaltzCee]

science is the Democrats strong suit, that is as long as it fits into their agenda.

That's a very sad take...
Making stuff up without anything to back it up seems to be the alternative.

If your research isn’t slanted into their agenda you don’t get grant money.

Normally this "granted money" is all about "socialism"... unless it's part of making some uninformed statement.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02 ... -ink-again
It's never easy getting sufficient resources for stuff you can only verify if it was worth it afterwards.

My point of rejecting a vaccine is that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Covid has a 99.8% survival
rate. I have an incredibly strong immune system. I rarely get sick. It has nothing to do
with fear, however there is a bit a lack of trust in these geniuses.

0.2% is about a third on top of the normal mortality rate without Covid. I think that's significant.

So you accept 0.2% deaths of the population while the rest may carry that stuff around asymptomatically (Even young kids are now found to be carrier)
The longer it roams the population the more chance of mutation, the more chance it gets deadlier (UK- and South Africa, Brazilian- variants).

So you also accept that either the hospital beds are taken by Covid-patients (because of humanitarian reason).
But then your (statistically happening) broken bone or cancer treatment or whatever can't happen either.
Maybe instead, you let almost a million people die horrible death without any help.

The vaccine is the attempt to help your immune system to protect yourself, your family members with a lesser immune system, your neighbors... until the replication factor goes below 1 and dies out.


How do we know, science. It's not perfect, who says it is? Not those scientists.
Yet guessing, as demonstrated in full color by the previous US administration, is a failed alternative: https://youtu.be/tpnjIyfmiG8?t=512

https://youtu.be/tpnjIyfmiG8?t=512
1/21/21: Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jen Psaki

I feel sorry for that virus if it gets anywhere near my immune system! How big is a virus? If
a human cell is the size of a baseball park, the virus is the size of the baseball. A mask should catch that. ;p

[WaltzCee]

From time to time it's necessary for the career bureaucrats/ruling class to cause a problem
only solveable by the infusion of massive amounts of cash.

Never let a crisis go to waste.

I propose every one take a 50% pay decrease. By doing that your company will have more
profit. They can invest that profit in lowering their prices making what ever industry/service
they're in more attractive. More customers! More hiring!

Everyone should take one for the team!

[WaltzCee]

• The Great Depression
  The Savings and Loan Crisis
  The conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
  The collapse of Bear Stearns
  The rescue of American International Group (AIG)
  The COVID-19 pandemic

It's different in other countries but in America we've had problems and the feds have
stepped up with a blank check and solved the problem.

Before the Freddie/Fannie problem the talk in the senate was a right to housing. Who might
have guessed that would be a problem?

[WaltzCee]

Now they're going after Trump for inciting an errection. Please. They could never accuse
Hillary Clinton of that!!

Blah blah blah scientifically, blah blah blah blah blah following the science blah blah.

This ain't your grandma's impeachment.

[rasselasss]

"Give him a fair trial...then hang him".....Biden's intelligence report denial to Trump is petty considering Trump had this knowledge daily for 4 years....influencing the outcome of Trumps so-called trial will not bring the country together or win him any respect from Trumps 74 and a 1/4million people who voted for him.......

[rasselasss]

Pelosi not too pleased on the result of Trump's trial....behaving like a woman scorned... did'nt get her way....