The Universal Gravity Wheel I promised you all, is IN HERE to appraise...

[justsomeone]

AB Hammer wrote:

" And don't think you have it until you truly have it. "


LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This coming from my friend who is the most optimistic builder I know.

Sorry Alan, I had to laugh when I read it.

I must admit, I may be cut out of the same mold.

[Fletcher]

1. Will UGW rotate or not? and why you think so?
2. Will the ascending weight swing, following UGW rotation, and get caught on the hook on the descending side of UGW.

First, thanks for the offensive remarks to everyone on this forum. Great way to elicit responses. I'm only replying because I had read your patent for your pump, but just because you have a patent and have worked on PM research since 1970 doesn't make YOU an expert. In fact, without success since 1970 I would think that makes you a bit of a failure?

Answering your questions without building your specific design means relying on our own experiences, but ultimately is still opinion so is no substitution for building. Here goes using your first image as reference:

1) the wheel will start to turn CW but will not have enough momentum to get to the proper angle for the left side weight to start swinging, therefore it won't be able to apply it's force to the rim via the rope in the hopes of carrying it to the other side to latch.

2) even if there was enough momentum each turn, I believe your latch system is prone to timing failures. A weight might get caught one cycle ok, then another it may get there too soon or too late to latch, as the speed of the wheel changed.

Now I may be wrong and/or you may disagree, but I answered your specific questions. I also believe that others have indirectly answered them as well. Now what?

What is the source of the extra energy this design will output in order for it to work ?

Have you built any model to test the 'show stoppers' in the theory ? - these would be the swing amplitude & the latching mechanism - the swing will be counter-influenced by Cf's holding the weights against the rim at any other than very slow rpm so that the swing would get progressively retarded as rpm increases.

General Comment : you could preset the device so that it was unbalanced [& latched] to start a CW rotation - it would need a push over & above the natural torque it possessed in that start configuration - the device would rotate but slow down thereafter & not accelerate as frictional losses ate up any momentum until it could not swing far enough & latch properly [assuming it could latch initially] - the latching devices could be replaced with gears rather than counter-weight arrangements.

All in all the device will seek & find its position of lowest Potential Energy [energy of position from gravity] - this is called 'keeling' - there will not be any surplus energy after losses to continue the rotation thru each successive sector to allow it to self sustain its rotation assuming the latching worked correctly.

Build a small scale model & attach a motor drive to it - refine the latching mechanism until it is reliable - observe the swing timing & amplitude - disconnect the motor drive & see if your theories are correct ?

Failing that, obtain a physics simulation package & teach yourself to use it - build a virtual model of your idea - attach a virtual motor to the model & repeat the steps above.

Look thru the albums on this discussion board looking for similar concepts - they won't have the same exact idea but a simlar approach - read why they didn't work - apply what you learnt from those discussions to self analyse your own idea - practice your analytical skills by attempting to analyse others hopeful designs until one day you can't see why something won't work - then build it.

BTW - since you have a patent pending then the examiners will probably give their professional opinions without a working model in support - their opinions are likely to be negative because you can't show the source of energy.

[rlortie]

" And don't think you have it until you truly have it. "

Sorry but I disagree! if I do not think I have it then what is the incentive to keep developing and building new designs.

I think you should have said; 'Don't say you have it until you truly have it'.

We all have to think with anticipation that the next build will surely lead to euphoria. I admit that so far this has not happened, the chances of it happening is getter better with each failure. I believe it is called 'process of elimination'.

Yesterday was a bumper crop day! I received three submitted designs, people who think they have it. Two have already received a 'Dear John' letter and the third is still to be analyzed.

If you do not think you have it, then why are you thinking of having it?

Ralph

[AB Hammer]

With a little egg on my face. LOL

Ralph you are so correct. LOL I should have said what you said.

'Don't say you have it until you truly have it'.

Honestly that is what I was thinking, but it just didn't come out that way. LOL

[raj]

Hello friends!!!
Just back to show you my first attempt at a crude concept testing working model.
It has given promising signs. I am presently working on a new weights hooking system. The rest seems to be working well.
I am sorry for my poor craftmanship.

[daxwc]

Looks good RAJ, don't worry about the poor craftmanship, the neighbour might never realize his lawn furniture is missing anyway.

[AB Hammer]

raj

We learn from every build.

Thanks for showing.
Alan

[DrWhat]

Go raj!

[raj]

I am so pleased to tell you all that I managed to check a new UGW weights hooking/releasing system that almost guarantees smooth hooking on the descending side and smooth releasing on the ascending of the wheel, which, now, further shows that my Universal Gravity Wheel looks a possible runner/pretender.
I shall upload new drawings and description of how this newly improved UGW would work before the end of this month.
I shall then expect you, all my good friends, to kindly evaluate my UGW concept and say exactly what you think of it, based simply on informations I have given in here. I thank you all, in advance.