Alden,
A quick note to say I appreciate your response and well posted letter. I am still giving serious thought to a magnetic horizontal bearing. I already have half or one end complete and functional.
If you follow the other threads in this forum you will see that I am a busy man at this time. I will respond and expand more regarding your letter in good time. Please be patient with me as I have you.
Ralph
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re: low friction mechanical roller bearing
Hi Alden,
also
in 'walker' video you can see that: 'turn the turner', it is a very good description of the motion.
the future has begun
Georg
You are right with this view, you describe a resonate system with a trouble force. I was careful.Again please plan a safe method of braking in case you start to have a runaway wheel. You must safely stop it or slow it down before it is allowed to become highly dangerous! The rotational kinetic energy of a runaway wheel would be unbounded, that is until it pulls itself apart and throws itself outward in the plane of its motion. Please be careful.
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is correct.turn the turner
in 'walker' video you can see that: 'turn the turner', it is a very good description of the motion.
the future has begun
Georg
re: low friction mechanical roller bearing
If this is true then the power density of a BW wheel is unbounded. With todays materials and design capability then high power densities should be acheived. However I think there are other limitations that set in before this happens.
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Some years back there was an article in a Popular mechanics, popular science or maybe even popular Mechanics.
It was about a very high speed (rpm) flywheel that stored energy to augment power in municipal buses that stop and go at every bus stop.
As I recall this flywheel was designed out of fiberglass and high density plastic. The inventors claimed that it could out rev- any steel wheel whether cast or forged without disintegrating.
Is there any members out there who may remember this article and can refresh my memory?
Ralph
It was about a very high speed (rpm) flywheel that stored energy to augment power in municipal buses that stop and go at every bus stop.
As I recall this flywheel was designed out of fiberglass and high density plastic. The inventors claimed that it could out rev- any steel wheel whether cast or forged without disintegrating.
Is there any members out there who may remember this article and can refresh my memory?
Ralph
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Yes I remember that flywheel. A wheel made of strands of piano wire would store more energy then a solid wheel of equal size and weight.
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After reading all the posts about this subject, I believe that we can't build a BW due to the force of gravity getting smaller since his time.
Makes about as much sense as some of the other posts on this topic.
Makes about as much sense as some of the other posts on this topic.
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Dave,
Thanks for the feed back on the flywheel.
As for gravity loosing force. I remember a drawing of such a machine that relied on the fact that gravity is allegedly loosing force with time. It was suppose to run because gravity was less on the up side than what it was on the down side time wise. The picture of this machine was an optical illusion at its finest.
As for making much sense, no it does not, but then again the more senseless, the more we have to think about. The more room for input in an attempt to make it sensible.
Now if you have a very high speed flywheel built out of piano wire suspended in Orffy bearings and then placed magnets on both sides you would have one heck of a bipolar Faraday generator.
Ralph
Thanks for the feed back on the flywheel.
As for gravity loosing force. I remember a drawing of such a machine that relied on the fact that gravity is allegedly loosing force with time. It was suppose to run because gravity was less on the up side than what it was on the down side time wise. The picture of this machine was an optical illusion at its finest.
As for making much sense, no it does not, but then again the more senseless, the more we have to think about. The more room for input in an attempt to make it sensible.
Now if you have a very high speed flywheel built out of piano wire suspended in Orffy bearings and then placed magnets on both sides you would have one heck of a bipolar Faraday generator.
Ralph
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The flywheel was to augment available power. i.e. under braking the flywheel stored energy that otherwise would have been lost to the system which was then returned for augmented acceleration from a standing start IINM.
The modern day equivalent is a device invented by some Aussies that fits onto a semi truck. It has roller veins in an oil pump that can be switched so that in one position, under braking, oil is forced through the roller vein pump & stored in a pressurized tank. Later when the truck needs to accelerate the veins are reversed & the pressurized oil & pump acts like a generator to augment the transmission drive or some such like.
The modern day equivalent is a device invented by some Aussies that fits onto a semi truck. It has roller veins in an oil pump that can be switched so that in one position, under braking, oil is forced through the roller vein pump & stored in a pressurized tank. Later when the truck needs to accelerate the veins are reversed & the pressurized oil & pump acts like a generator to augment the transmission drive or some such like.
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Do you mean peristaltic pump?
Disclaimer: I reserve the right not to know what I'm talking about and not to mention this possibility in my posts. This disclaimer also applies to sentences I claim are quotes from anybody, including me.
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Yes, I remember reading about that hydraulic energy storage system for trucks. I think it was pretty expensive to set up. I guess these recovery processes will become more economically viable as fuel costs rise.
From memory, the filament flywheel mentioned by Dave was operated in vacuum to get around high windage losses.
From memory, the filament flywheel mentioned by Dave was operated in vacuum to get around high windage losses.
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You have read about my magnetic suspended vertical axis wheel and my half suspended horizontal design with propeller.
Here is the patent number that is off my desk model.
5,589,721 Click on US patent office home page and click on quick search by number. You will need a tiff. reader to download the images if you do not have "Real Time on your PC. There is one offered for IE and Netscape.
Ken with you in mind take head to page 4, figure six. This is as close to Alden's Orffy bearings I can relate to or construct at this time.
Ralph
Here is the patent number that is off my desk model.
5,589,721 Click on US patent office home page and click on quick search by number. You will need a tiff. reader to download the images if you do not have "Real Time on your PC. There is one offered for IE and Netscape.
Ken with you in mind take head to page 4, figure six. This is as close to Alden's Orffy bearings I can relate to or construct at this time.
Ralph
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There is or was, I believe, a large 'rotor' on display at a museum in the U.S. that was large enough to make at least partial use of 'gyroscopic precession' with the earth's rotation in order to continue its slow rotation.
Surely A.Park is not implying that simply a good bearing and the earth's rotation provided the impetus for Bessler's wheel?
Peace,
TS
Surely A.Park is not implying that simply a good bearing and the earth's rotation provided the impetus for Bessler's wheel?
Peace,
TS
As most of humanity suffers under tyrants, misled by the devil and his cohorts who've recently been thrown down here, nothing short of Yahshua, King of Kings, will remove these oppressors and bring everlasting peace.
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TS,
From what I can make of his long thesis A.Park is implying that simply a good bearing and the earth's rotation provides the impetus for Bessler's wheel.
To accept this fact one may consider the Foucault pendulum and it's isochronism of a spherical amplitude. If this be so then the wheel would make one revolution every 24 hours. With a lot of gearing ratios one might get it better than a couple of RPM's. And that is the best I can offer about Aldens implications.
Ralph
From what I can make of his long thesis A.Park is implying that simply a good bearing and the earth's rotation provides the impetus for Bessler's wheel.
To accept this fact one may consider the Foucault pendulum and it's isochronism of a spherical amplitude. If this be so then the wheel would make one revolution every 24 hours. With a lot of gearing ratios one might get it better than a couple of RPM's. And that is the best I can offer about Aldens implications.
Ralph
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I am commenting on the post Techstuf, Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: re: low friction mechanical roller bearing, page 4.
TS,
Net Torque from Two-Part Gravitons. The Bessler wheel would work even if the Earth were not rotating, as it gets its energy directly from gravitons (not from the Earth's rotation). See for example, my (Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:28 am) beginning of "Simplified Bessler Pendulum" under sub-heading of "Energy for Two Part Gravitons". A slight amount of energy is typically extracted from each of many two-part gravitons. Both parts of the graviton are attractive downward (meaning in the direction from whence the graviton came). If the graviton encounters a body rotating about a horizontal axis, then the first part of the graviton pulls attractively downward on a nearer portion and then slight later the second part of the graviton pulls attractively downward on a further portion. Because of the slight time delay in the two pulls "downward", the body rotating about a horizontal axis has rotated slightly more in the meantime. Generally (or on the average) the net torque (about the body's center of mass) causes the rotating body to increase its rate of rotating about the horizontal axis. The effect increases as the body increases its angular speed about its horizontal axis. A very good bearing is needed to allow the power to accumulate and so indirectly to increase its power extraction, which depends upon the rate of rotation of the Bessler wheel.
Because of the phenomena or property of the two-part graviton, any improvement (friction decrease) in the roller bearing given torque loadings under conditions of high load bearing (and especially for high angular speeds) indirectly has much payoff with respect to power extraction. "For greed is an evil plant." (Collins p. 225) As should be clear, Bessler's greedy invention thrives and allows power production to especially grow according to its prior energy greed. The more rotational kinetic energy it retains; the greater the power extraction capability from gravity. AEP - 24 Aug 2005
TS,
Net Torque from Two-Part Gravitons. The Bessler wheel would work even if the Earth were not rotating, as it gets its energy directly from gravitons (not from the Earth's rotation). See for example, my (Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:28 am) beginning of "Simplified Bessler Pendulum" under sub-heading of "Energy for Two Part Gravitons". A slight amount of energy is typically extracted from each of many two-part gravitons. Both parts of the graviton are attractive downward (meaning in the direction from whence the graviton came). If the graviton encounters a body rotating about a horizontal axis, then the first part of the graviton pulls attractively downward on a nearer portion and then slight later the second part of the graviton pulls attractively downward on a further portion. Because of the slight time delay in the two pulls "downward", the body rotating about a horizontal axis has rotated slightly more in the meantime. Generally (or on the average) the net torque (about the body's center of mass) causes the rotating body to increase its rate of rotating about the horizontal axis. The effect increases as the body increases its angular speed about its horizontal axis. A very good bearing is needed to allow the power to accumulate and so indirectly to increase its power extraction, which depends upon the rate of rotation of the Bessler wheel.
Because of the phenomena or property of the two-part graviton, any improvement (friction decrease) in the roller bearing given torque loadings under conditions of high load bearing (and especially for high angular speeds) indirectly has much payoff with respect to power extraction. "For greed is an evil plant." (Collins p. 225) As should be clear, Bessler's greedy invention thrives and allows power production to especially grow according to its prior energy greed. The more rotational kinetic energy it retains; the greater the power extraction capability from gravity. AEP - 24 Aug 2005
Alden E. Park, https://gravityunveiled.home.blog/ for free .pdf books: Gravity-Wheel Unveiled (GWU), Bessler's Little Book Decoded (BLBD), and A Book in Every Home Decoded (BEHD). Also see https://gravity-wheel.neocities.org/
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re: low friction mechanical roller bearing
Hi Alden,
you wrote :
the future has begun
Georg
you wrote :
this is correct and fits in the construction of Don Martin. You can find a description of it under http://www.evert.deThe more rotational kinetic energy it retains; the greater the power extraction capability from gravity.
the future has begun
Georg