Musing

[jdelaney]

@AB Hammer, post that you are a disabled Veteran. You have posted that the V.A. has you covered 100%. If you can not post that you are a disabled Veteran then I will say you are a fraud. And for years, your fraud has been supported. I do know you are not a disabled Veteran because when ever I fill out a job application, they ask me if I am a protected Veteran. I always answer yes.
You are not. But you are an American. And you also have a family in America. Choke on it.
And yes Alan, as I said, if things work out for me because I work at them, I will see about having your knees fixed. I guess I should be thankful to Jesus.

[Kirk]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph

https://www.peter.com.au/articles/pantograph.html

interesting

[AB Hammer]

Kirk

Wow I forgot about that device. Thanks for posting it. Thinking about it, I can build one modified for my plasma cutter.



@ Jim Lindgaard the one who has been banned so much I have lost count and now I coudn't care less.

Up to your old tricks of slander/troll work. Find a girlfriend, you need one badly.

As for the facebook message? My wife takes care of my facebook page and she said she remembered it and we just ignored it for there was no interest.

The rest of your BS is just that.

[AB Hammer]

@AB Hammer, am sorry I served Honorably in the U.S> Military and suffered a hearing loss in which Americans refuse to let me have a family. You are a disabled Veteran, right ? If not, I'll do my wood working and see about your knees. I know you don't want them fixed because what would you do ? You're not willing to work.
I could pray for you but at some point something needs to matter to you.

Jim Lindgaard

You blame all your problems on Americans and me. You are your own worst enemy and cause your own problems. Look in the mirror and correct that first.

To those who just need to know. I have served honorably in the Air National Guard and the US Coast Guard and honorably discharged from both. I was not able to make it a career due to Physical problems thus dealings with the VA which I filed in 1985 and they forgot about me until 2011 when social security sent me back to them in 2011, I had nearly lost all walking ability but I still try to work on despite my pain. I am very skilled and here are the links to some of my sights. Skill without the ability to be fast at it doesn't make a good living. So when the VA gives me my 100% I will spend my time teaching others to do this work, armor and wheel.

For my blacksmith work of armor
https://www.flickr.com/photos/abhammer/

My wheel work and more to be posted.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer/videos

[jdelaney]

@All,
With what I post about scissors, it is because I have built them in the past. And since a leveraged force can be used, the weight of construction wouldn't be an issue.
And this does go back to Bessler having built grandfather clocks. To lift a weight 4 times heavier, 4 times as high and to do so quickly is possible with scissors.
Of a lever 3 meters long is used and has a 1 kg weight at it's end, it develops 29.4 newton - meters of torque. And if this 1 kg weight drops 50 cm's, it can lift a 3kg weight 50 cm's. or a 1.5 kg weight 1 meter.
And this is with using basic ratios. With scissors, a 1kg weight could possibly be lifted much higher.
The problem with scissors though is they have not been used to lift a weight to perform work perpetually. And this simply means that no one has any experience with having scissors perform work in this way.
This is why I posted a basic design to show where work can be multiplied in a way previously not considered.
And kind of doubt anyone is going to try something simple to better understand some of the things that Bessler talked about. Kind of why I probably am in the wrong place. I've spent too much time building even though I could've made excuses because of my health. Have had enough surgeries and did work through and around them.
Have told one friend of mine I'm not sure if I should either thank or hate Jesus for my willingness to work.

[jdelaney]

@AB Hammer, am sorry I served Honorably in the U.S> Military and suffered a hearing loss in which Americans refuse to let me have a family. You are a disabled Veteran, right ? If not, I'll do my wood working and see about your knees. I know you don't want them fixed because what would you do ? You're not willing to work.
I could pray for you but at some point something needs to matter to you.

Jim Lindgaard

You blame all your problems on Americans and me. You are your own worst enemy and cause your own problems. Look in the mirror and correct that first.

To those who just need to know. I have served honorably in the Air National Guard and the US Coast Guard and honorably discharged from both. I was not able to make it a career due to Physical problems thus dealings with the VA which I filed in 1985 and they forgot about me until 2011 when social security sent me back to them in 2011, I had nearly lost all walking ability but I still try to work on despite my pain. I am very skilled and here are the links to some of my sights. Skill without the ability to be fast at it doesn't make a good living. So when the VA gives me my 100% I will spend my time teaching others to do this work, armor and wheel.

For my blacksmith work of armor
https://www.flickr.com/photos/abhammer/

My wheel work and more to be posted.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer/videos

Alan,
I asked you to do something simple, post that you are a disabled Veteran.
You gave an explanation about something else. I am a disabled Veteran because the V.A. has accepted that I have 2 service connected disabilities.
If I look in a mirror, I have 2 builds posted that I am building. Also, with Kirk's word problem, I gave a frame of reference showing how his interpretation of something Bessler said could be shown.
Kind of why I would like you to post that you are a disabled Veteran.

By the way Alan, there is something called discrimination. With my hearing loss, I have had to tolerate a lot. Am not sure why you would defend it. And that is the difference between me and you my friend. One reason why I am motivated is so that I will not have to tolerate being discriminated against because of my service connected hearing loss.
And I think it's funny that you are jealous of me. After all, I've taken the time to learn. and you have a family. The difference between having a significant hearing loss and not having one.

[jdelaney]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph

https://www.peter.com.au/articles/pantograph.html

interesting

Kind of, sort of. One thing I was thinking is popsicle sticks. For basic testing or reference, would be cheap enough and might actually show something at the same time.

edited to add; will see if I can find some locally.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Craft-Popsicl ... g/32765365

Kirk, I have ordered them, it'll take a week for me to get them. That will give me a chance to have a stand built.

[AB Hammer]

jdelaney aka James Lindgaard posted

Alan,
I asked you to do something simple, post that you are a disabled Veteran.
You gave an explanation about something else. I am a disabled Veteran because the V.A. has accepted that I have 2 service connected disabilities.
If I look in a mirror, I have 2 builds posted that I am building. Also, with Kirk's word problem, I gave a frame of reference showing how his interpretation of something Bessler said could be shown.
Kind of why I would like you to post that you are a disabled Veteran.

Well Jim L

Yes!!! I am a disabled vet standing at 70% with 5 more other claims of military connected injuries I am fighting for. Because I lived in poverty most of the time between 1985 and 2011 I couldn't get medical attention and it breaks the paper trail for time lines and will most likely end up in court. But it will go there if necessary.

Happy Now? So what is your proved percentage you get disability for? You have to have at least 30% for a check.

Alan

[jdelaney]

Alan,
I doubt you are a disabled Veteran. I think what is sad though is what you just posted. That's only because of what you say about me.

[ME]

@ME, what is insulting is to be told I am comparable to Alan. I started learning Norwegian living in Norway. Americans just don't like that.
I also have a significant hearing loss, Americans just don't like that.
I am not comparable to him.

The insulting part is that you are the one who weighs one thing against the other; one thing is heavy, one thing is light - that's the act of comparing.
I think you confuse 'comparing' with being 'equal' in some way.
I can't tell which is better or worse, I don't do the 'weighing' here; and basically I do not care.

I just find it funny this is actually on-topic (at least related to the title)...

Synonyms of 'Musing'
introspection, meditation, pensiveness, pondering, reflection, reverie

[Furcurequs]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph

https://www.peter.com.au/articles/pantograph.html

interesting

Kind of, sort of. One thing I was thinking is popsicle sticks. For basic testing or reference, would be cheap enough and might actually show something at the same time.

edited to add; will see if I can find some locally.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Craft-Popsicl ... g/32765365

Kirk, I have ordered them, it'll take a week for me to get them. That will give me a chance to have a stand built.

A few weeks ago I went to Walmart late at night to get a few items and while there reached way back on this low shelf to get a box of what I thought was 1000 tongue depressor craft sticks.

According to the label on the shelf it appeared to only be around $5, so I thought I was really getting a good deal and that it was fortunate I bent way down there to find that one last hidden box! When I got home and looked at my box more closely, though, I realized I had actually gotten a 1000 count box of popsicle sticks by mistake!

Anyway, I thought about taking them back and trading them for tongue depressors, but I ended up deciding to just keep them instead. I've since gone back to get a 300 count box of tongue depressors, too, though. So, I'm finally all set, it seems.

I've actually even used some of the popsicle sticks already in fabricating some parts. Unless my prototype works, however, and I have to go into mass production, I think I have more popsicle sticks than a man should ever need. ...well, at least a normal man.

2 for a penny! You can't beat that. They must have been on sale, though, for I can't find that price online for the same brand.

It seems I got what appears to be a more expensive brand (Horizon Group) for the same price as this box:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Kids-Craft-Wo ... k/19525320

I can't really tell much difference in popsicle sticks myself, though, so that Kid's brand might be just as good as the one I bought - and mine was just normally overpriced.

[jdelaney]

Duane,
I'm going to see if I can cancel my order. I wish I would've thought of tongue depressors :-)

ME, Alan's attacked me quite a bit because of my medical problems. And I did offer to let him get involved in this and the first thing he did was to say he had excuses. It's old.

Kirk, if you notice, Mt 26 looks like the pantograph you posted. And those do move rather easily.

@All,
The 2 drawings are Mt 20 and Mt 26. I placed the lever from Mt 20 onto Mt 26. The reason I did this is because Mt 26 shows 1/2 of a scissor. And with wheel weights, am using them on my own builds. They can actually be mounted like a spinning top. Bessler shows the toy in his drawings.
If a line is wrapped around both in the clockwise and counter clockwise directions, it can help to keep the weight in it's track so it might work better.. It'd basically be reeling it in whether it's moving inward or outward.
How ever, with scissors, compound motion. And with the drawing that is rotated, lift is what matters. Actual testing would have the weight on the outside, with what is shown, if f = mv, then it takes less energy to move a weight near the axle. Saves on energy being expended when work is not being performed.
And with something like this, math can be done using newton - meters and f = m(d*t) or just f = mv, same things. Although in reality, velocity would be converted acceleration while the work the levers perform would be basic leverage.
And what testing of scissors would do is to show how much work is needed to lift or roll out weights. Then it might be considered if the levers can move the scissors quickly enough. You know, the quicker the scissors move, the greater the period of rotation that will be over balanced.
And I guess if testing of the scissors works out, then we might have a good idea of why Bessler found moving something upward quickly matters.

Jim

[MrTim]

Don't worry about having "too many" popsicle sticks. You'll be surprised at how many you go through for everyday needs. ;-)

As to musing...
I've been musing about dropping weights, and why I don't think that works.
A) While the weight is dropping, it is not applying it's mass to the wheel rotation, and in effect creates a "(zero) mass vacuum" that the wheel will try to correct through counter-rotation by the heavier side.
B) A falling weight will create an impact, which introduces oscillation to the wheel (which is bad, and something I learned early in my wheel experiments.)
C) As the wheel speeds up, there is less time for the weight to fall the same distance it did at a lower speed. (Can you make a weight fall faster than the RPM of the wheel?.) At some point the rate of "falling" will equal the RPM (i.e. no movement) aaand we're back at (A) again.
D) The fallen weight still needs to be raised back to a position to where it can be made to fall again.

I've been instead looking (again) at the ascending side of the wheel, where a lot of unused leverage has been overlooked (I say "again" because one of my earlier mechanisms (pictured somewhere in the archives) pulled a weight inward as it ascended. Moving it outward again, not so good. ;-) Since the heavier side will try to keel, it is creating a leverage situation that could be tapped into to shift weight to the top of the heavier side (and continue the cycle.)
Eh, still looking & musing... ;-)

[AB Hammer]

Alan,
I doubt you are a disabled Veteran. I think what is sad though is what you just posted. That's only because of what you say about me.

Well, Jim Lindgaard


So you don't have a rating with military disability. So what is your big problem?

You are putting up the challenge, so show your proof of percentage of military disability first.


Alan

[jdelaney]

Alan,
There's a slight problem. It's in what you post. I'm more focused on desalination. I live in Kentucky. We have plenty of water. Not everybody does.