Inertial propulsion...

[iacob alex]

.....resulting as an unidirecțional motion , at :
http://conf.uni-ruse.bg/bg/docs/cp14/2/2-1.pdf
Al_ex

[Georg Künstler]

Hi Alex,
in the text you can read on page 15:

Other parameters involved are: m and e symbolize the full mass and the eccentricity of the rotating masses respectively, c– the system damping constant, k– the resultant spring stiffness, ω – angular velocity of rotating masses, and t - is the time. According to [10] the differential equation governing the relative motion of the carrier is .)sin(2tmekxxcxMrrrωω=++(1) The resonance amplitude is given by.)()(2222ωωωcMkmeXr+−=(2) The relative oscillations of the carrier with respect to chasses is defined as 2sin)(⎟⎠⎞⎜⎝⎛−⋅=πωtXtxrr (3) The carrier transmits a dynamic force to the chasses having a magnitude of T

We have everything of this math in the Gravity converter.
Maybe I have to tune some parameters, but we are there., In my opinion .

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7892

and for my blocking device we have
on Page 17

of the transmitted force by some means. This is practically done by using one-way-roller bearings integrated in the wheel hubs, allowing only a forward rotation due to the positive impulses. As a result the graph of the

Many many thanks Alex for this math page.

[TheVisitorV]

OVER UNITY, FREE ENERGY, SPRING OSCILATOR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDQ_lnUo0go

water pump spring powered

lol, been looking for this video for months, glad i stumbled upon it again!

[iacob alex]

Hi !
Finally , we have some good news ( on paper...) , related to inertial propulsion , at :
https://youtu.be/XXfJwcriE7s
Simply , it's a Todeschini/di Bella patent (1965) quadrupled , playing as/alike an "inertial drone" ...intended to obtain an one way tractive vector , due to the summum of the centrifugal effect.
Proposals on the same line, at:
www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/stanga.html
Al_ex

[Sam Peppiatt]

The problem with centrifugal inertia propulsion, is that for ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction, which causes back force. This back force can't be eliminated. The key to success then, is to find some way to circumvent it.

I think the solution to the problem; is to deflect the back force 90 degrees to the direction of travel. So that the back force would be pushing sideways on the vehicle. It would require two units, one deflecting forces to the left and the other to the right, to go in a straight line.

If this could be done, it would prevent any back force. A space ship then could accelerate to light speed and beyond.

But, please don't ask me how to do it-------------------Sam

[Georg Künstler]

an simple oscillation of an eccentric mass will not allow to move the object.
The eccentric mass will follow a circle path.
It is including the fix axle problem.
To have success also the turning axle must be allowed to move.
The next problem which will occure then is the case of the resonance dead of the construction.
I had put my "drehmomentspeicher" construction also on a lorry and turned it with 50 rounds per second. The lorry did not move and stayed in place.

What i found is a construction with is using an indirect impact to get more potential energy.
It can be described as an pendulum which is beeing moved sideward and then suddenly stopped.
we get an swinging of the pendulum, and when the sidewards move is faster a complete rotation of the pendulum.

If it is not clear what I describe, let me know, I will prepare then a picture for you.

[iacob alex]

Hi Georg !
Waiting for a picture from you...if you are not interested to comment the animation up here ( Zaitsev 08 ) .
Anyway, the starting point is Alfio di Bella patent (1965)./ proposal , as :
https://youtu.be/lyUemImHU3Y
Al_ex

[Wubbly]

Inertial propulsion used to fascinate me.
I had an idea where two gyroscopes were manipulated with mirrored mechanical mechanisms.
During one operation of the mechanism the gyroscopes were sent through an arc,
and the other operation the gyroscopes were translated linearly to reset.
It would take 4 movements before the system was reset completely.

Since gyroscopes appear to be 'heavier' when you try to twist them and have their normal mass when moved linearly, it seemed like it should work.

Finally I did a simple experiment to prove the concept.

Attach a gyroscope to the end of a pendulum.

1) Allow the pendulum to swing with the gyroscope spinning.

2) Allow the pendulum to swing with the gyroscope not spinning.

What do you think the outcome of the experiment was:

A) The spinning gyroscope pendulum had a much longer period of oscillation.

B) The spinning gyroscope pendulum had a much shorter period of oscillation.

C) No change in period of oscillation.

[iacob alex]

Hi Wubby !
Inertial propulsion is related to inertia ...so playing inertia ?

Remember "What's in a name?" (Shakespeare).

This time "what's in this ("shadowy"...) word ?

Anyway , it's an old challenge of Newton !?...if we play rotational inertia in a pulsatory manner (action-reaction) ?

A fish plays inertia of water ( hydrostatics) , but moves so easy ...

A rotating body can play the inertia of space , but can develop acceleration so easy...

Have we here a dilemma , a perplexity ?

If for a fish the real power "supply" is the reaction of the water ( potential/"condensed " motion ) ...for us the inertia can be considered a "potential supply ",also ?

Maybe...inertia (the property of space...as an inertial field alike the electromagnetic field ) is nothing more then a spectrum of oscillations /endless space of"condensed motion" ???

If so , our problem is the constructive /enlightment "game" with inertia ( action ) , waiting / hoping in a "generous " reaction?!

Al_ex

[Georg Künstler]

hi iacob alex,
here the pictures from my old parts.

An eccentric weight is acting as a pendulum when you put it on sticks.

when you move the sticks sidewards and stop it suddenly you will get the position of the weight which i showed you on the second picture.

Depending on the speed of the sidewards move, the pendulum will swing some degrees, if you have a higher speed and you stop it suddenly the eccentric weight will rotate.

So a hard stop of the sidewards move will result in an upswing.
You will get potential energy.

[iacob alex]

Hi Georg !
Take a look at : https://youtu.be/-1n-C5o8fZ0
Any connection with your test ?
Al_ex

[Fletcher]

Inertial propulsion used to fascinate me.
I had an idea where two gyroscopes were manipulated with mirrored mechanical mechanisms.
During one operation of the mechanism the gyroscopes were sent through an arc,
and the other operation the gyroscopes were translated linearly to reset.
It would take 4 movements before the system was reset completely.

Since gyroscopes appear to be 'heavier' when you try to twist them and have their normal mass when moved linearly, it seemed like it should work.

Finally I did a simple experiment to prove the concept.

Attach a gyroscope to the end of a pendulum.

1) Allow the pendulum to swing with the gyroscope spinning.

2) Allow the pendulum to swing with the gyroscope not spinning.

What do you think the outcome of the experiment was:

A) The spinning gyroscope pendulum had a much longer period of oscillation.

B) The spinning gyroscope pendulum had a much shorter period of oscillation.

C) No change in period of oscillation.

Hard for me to visualize this setup. And no one has stepped up to the plate, so far.

I'm gonna say B). Reason .. if the spinning gyro is constant orientated in space then it might act like a point mass when attached to the pendulum bob, and have less inertia than a fixed gyro not spinning. Just a guess. I bet you learned something !

[Wubbly]

The inertial drive was conceptualized as alternately pivoting and translating a gyroscope.

The right gyroscope is attached to a linear track that pivots through arc ABC. (pivot phase)

The gyroscope then runs down the linear track from C to D. (translation phase)

It is back where it started but now is spinning in the opposite direction because of the geometry.

It then pivots through arc ABC and translates back up to D and is in its original configuration.

There is a mirrored left gyroscope that performs a similar synchronized maneuver.

There is also a mirrored gyroscope pair on a parallel plane below to eliminate any precession effects.

If a spinning gyroscope is 'heavier' or 'lighter' when you twist it or translate it, then a linear drive should be easy to build.

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So the pendulum experiment was performed.

A gyroscope on the end of a pendulum rod.

My guess was that the spinning gyroscope would be harder to twist through arc ABC and wouldn't even make 2 or 3 oscillations before stopping.

As it turned out, there was no observable change in the pendulum period of oscillation with the gyroscope spinning or not spinning.

I mounted the pendulum system on a 'turntable' and as the pendulum swung with the gyroscope spinning, arc ABC was not in a plane. There were precession affects that twisted the system back and forth as the pendulum swung. I think it had somewhat of a figure 8 affect when viewed from above, or maybe it was an "S". I don't really remember, but it was fun to watch.

[Georg Künstler]

Hi iacob alex,

the exampe which you have passed to me is an gravity supported device like

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiefpumpe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpjack

It will make the work easier, but there is no energy gain from gravity.

It is not what I have discovered with the indirect impact.
So what I have passed to you with the eccentric weights have a complete different function.

Think on an car accident, the car is stopped suddenly, but what will happen with the doors of the car ? why are nowadays the doors are looked when speed is rising ?

We turn the car by 90 degrees, one door up, the other door down and open.
Now we make such an accident again.
The down hanging door will be accelerated upwards against gravity.
The down hanging door will begin to rotate upwards, depending on the accident speed.

The carrier of the doors, the car will make the impact, and the door will get the potential energy.
So interesting for the experiment is only the down hanging door,

[iacob alex]

Hi Georg !
If I understand , you play the rotating doors of a car due to a repetitive impact ? It's a manner to use inertia ? Take a look at :
https://www.americanscientist.org/artic ... of-inertia
Maybe , you have a particular case of inertia.
For me , the inertia property of space ( and energy spectrum...) is alike an Euclidean image. If we rotate matter is like we play a Riemann game with this primary law of mechanics ( stability of any structure ).
Al_ex