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JUBAT wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:09 pm And your accusations without proof means you believe your own lies.

It's why you have your own thread in the fraud section.

The fact that you accuse me of being AB Hammer when I'm absolutely not him shows what kind of person you are. You make baseless accusations which you can't support and when I call you out on it, you keep reply with the same baseless accusations.

Don't forget to make a youtube video about all of this so everyone on your channel knows how you behave in here.

Do you mean this video? https://youtu.be/HhJUNqqLmb4 And in September it will be 2 years old on YouTube. With only 211 views, people
on my channel might not like what you and your friends have to offer. The people who watch my channel watch it because of the work I do. For
whatever I have to say, I have my work to help explain it. My subscribers let me know that they'd prefer me to build and to avoid the ugly politics
associated with forums on the internet. This might be why my channel continues to grow.
And in the next couple of days I'll be adding new content. It's been a while. And when people see 2 builds and I'm close to being finished, I might get
even more new subscribers. Granted, 350 subscribers isn't much but I have seen when I show new work I get new subscribers. And since numbers
matter, my next video could push me over 500 subscribers. People on YouTube have a favorable reaction when people are seen doing work.
She's popular because she has built up her channel by doing work. https://youtube.com/shorts/OI7HoxNAO-o?feature=share
And Alan, I want to enjoy working on my builds, That means I'll need to limit my exposure online because of people who do not like me. Working on
2 builds at the same time is a lot of work. And with science, until I can pursue my experiment there's nothing to discuss.

p.s., Jubat, you have absolutely no work to show but you have authority to demand. These guys support you, someone who is anonymous and only
says "prove it to me". You're their Champion Alan. You're proving this forum is a joke every way imaginable and they're letting you do it. Just not my
problem.
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Two broken spirits grooming each other is a beautiful thing.
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ovyyus wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:59 am Two broken spirits grooming each other is a beautiful thing.
He wants me to be a willing victim of sexual molestation, why he is grooming me. That's why I have to "prove" myself to him.
He does like the guy that sexually molested my 2 oldest brothers. When I told him that he reminded of him he asked if I would
do what he wants. Isn't it a beautiful thing when a sexual predator is grooming his victim? And if you read what I posted, you
guys are supportive of him. Thank You for "proving" what he is doing.

And oyvvus, ubeaut is a forum moderator at woodworkforum.com which is Australian and he told me that I had to be "personally pleasing"
to Alan while Alan moderates me. He was extremely hateful towards me because I'm heterosexual. And tarsier79 says he loves Alan and I
am bad. And oyvvus, if I build, it's not so I can have an abusive husband when I prefer a woman to a man.
And if you're wondering oyvvus, Alan isn't entirely to blame because he was both supported and encouraged. That's one of the reasons I
don't want to be like him or his supporters. If he doesn't have the support that he has in here then he exercises some self control and I've
seen where he can do that. I have realized about all of Bessler's work so I kind of need to be able to understand what people are saying
when they write something.

With my 2 builds, I'll probably stay offline while I finish them. When I say I need surgery.................
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ovyyus wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:59 am Two broken spirits grooming each other is a beautiful thing.
It's obvious you like Jim and his accusations. You'd rather sit back and let him carry on. I refuse to because he's gone unchecked for too long. He's made some serious accusations against the members of this board and has threatened Scott Ellis with litigation in the past. When you have someone as vile as that, you need to have documented proof so that if it ever goes to court, you have pages and pages of it for proof.

I've encouraged James to get his surgery and encouraged him to do his builds even if they do fail. He has twisted my demands of proof by saying I want to groom him for sexual pleasure. Nowhere in any of my typings have I even come close to hinting at such filth.

What I've demanded is proof of Jim's accusations against the board members. He's made accusations that doctors won't let him have surgery, that we wouldn't let him have surgery and on and on. These are pretty serious accusations and absolutely are libel in a court of law. The problem is that nowhere can I find any proof of his claims and with James threating Scott Ellis with litigation to take the board down, these threads serve as proof that no such accusations have ever been made. It's why I keep insisting that he prove them, because it's going to look really good for the defense of BesslerWheel.com in that no proof of said accusations can ever be found.

You don't think JL would go to court? Think again - he's stated as much before and hasn't been shy about it. I have a hunch it's why he's allowed to continue this discussion because he's done a really good job showing his true colours. It's also done a really good job of showing which members support this poppycock.

What I find amazing is that people are more upset for be rebutting JL's claims than they are his claims. I'm not talking about false claims of a working wheel...I'm talking about the grooming and molestation stuff and then the talk about people not wanting him to get surgery and how people want him to move out of the USA because he's not racially pure. What in the hell? Where did that come from? I've never, ever seen such drivel on here in original form and yet it seems you guys are okay with these claims?

James says that me and my friends this and me and my friends that. I don't know any of you personally and have no friends on this board so the vast majority of his claims are false.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I'm not AB Hammer
I want James to get his surgery done.
I don't want him to leave the USA.
I want him to keep building his wheels and exercising his free rights to build and share whatever he wants.
I want him to stop stating false and libelous accusations about myself and the other board members.
The only proof I demand of him is when he makes libelous claims about myself and these board members.
Anything else about his Bessler wheels is 100% okay with me and he doesn't have to check in with me on any of it.
Just stop the libelous claims.

And yet as you keep reading, he will completely ignore what I've stated and insist on things counter-productive to this board and its members. I abhor and repudiate his actions and anyone who sides with said actions.

He's been banned before over this and since it's not happening this time, I'm making sure things are well documented.
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JUBAT wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:42 am
ovyyus wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:59 am Two broken spirits grooming each other is a beautiful thing.
It's obvious
Alan, I think everyone knows it's you. I just don't know what to do about it. And at the same time they like you. From my perspective,
they like you molesting me. At least now I'll be able to enjoy the work that I do. An attorney would be better when asking why I'm being
groomed for another man, you agree, right?
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You know you're in crazytown when each side says you support the other :D

PS I meant the type of 'grooming' that chimps do to enhance their health and social bonding. I see a wonderful future for you both, perhaps filling hundreds of pages with your naughty secrets.

PPS For those who have this on ignore: the synopsis so far is that one side needs surgery and is immigrating to mars and the other side has a broken joystick and only one wheelchair armrest. Carry on lads.
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ovyyus wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:35 am You know you're in crazytown when each side says you support the other :D

PS I meant the type of 'grooming' that chimps do to enhance their health and social bonding. You know, the close inspection and picking out of bad bits from all those little nooks and crannies.
I say sexual molestation. I don't like him while you do.
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ovyyus wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:35 am You know you're in crazytown when each side says you support the other :D

PS I meant the type of 'grooming' that chimps do to enhance their health and social bonding. I see a wonderful future for you both, perhaps filling hundreds of pages with your naughty secrets.

PPS For those who have this on ignore: the synopsis so far is that one side needs surgery and is immigrating to mars and the other side has a broken joystick and only one wheelchair armrest. Carry on lads.

You are right oyvvus, why would I want a woman in my life when Alan is grooming me? I can't have a woman in my life until Alan allows for it.
In 18 years he has kept me from posting with other people online. My life goes through him and what he'll allow. And there's only him. And as
you said, he is grooming me to be his wife. You find it beautiful just as everyone associated with this forum does.
Still, when your families find out what you support, I'd like to see their reaction when this forum supports human trafficking.I will be asking
governments to seek those charges.
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Go for it Jim. You're all talk and yet you can never prove your allegations I'm sure Oyvvus will take your side - he'd rather let you say whatever you want in a big old feel good session of libelous commentary as long as nobody else speaks up and counters it.

I'm not worried because I'm not AB Hammer so you go ahead and get you a lawyer and go after AB Hammer lock stock and barrel. I'll be sitting on the sidelines watching the fiasco because it won't be involving me.

I'm still insisting that when you make claims, you need to prove them. A court will demand it. If you can't prove them, then it becomes libel and then whatcha gonna do?

The power chair parts are for a mowing robot I'm working on making - you know - something that actually works.

If James is going to make these outrageous claims, then he needs to have evidence to back them up. As long as he keeps making these claims, I will request proof because that's what a court is going to want to see. The allegations are serious enough to warrant having a look into them. This thread will exist as evidence.
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JUBAT wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:39 pm Go for it Jim. You're all talk and yet you can never prove your allegations I'm sure Oyvvus will take your side - he'd rather let you say whatever you want in a big old feel good session of libelous commentary as long as nobody else speaks up and counters it.

I'm not worried because I'm not AB Hammer so you go ahead and get you a lawyer and go after AB Hammer lock stock and barrel. I'll be sitting on the sidelines watching the fiasco because it won't be involving me.

I'm still insisting that when you make claims, you need to prove them. A court will demand it. If you can't prove them, then it becomes libel and then whatcha gonna do?

The power chair parts are for a mowing robot I'm working on making - you know - something that actually works.

If James is going to make these outrageous claims, then he needs to have evidence to back them up. As long as he keeps making these claims, I will request proof because that's what a court is going to want to see. The allegations are serious enough to warrant having a look into them. This thread will exist as evidence.
Alan, You'll probably go to jail and this forum shut down. I think people will believe me when I say you want to molest me. Your posts prove that.
I have to answer to you and oyvvus sees what you're doing as grooming me and thinks it's a beautiful thing. He saw my resistance to you as weakening.
And when you've dominated me for the last 15 years the same way, oyvvus' description would support what I say because I don't like you. And as for
you Alan, I think you're disgusting. And yet I can't trust people online because of you. It's too easy for someone to set up a fake profile.
And Alan, your alcoholic XO had his beer drinking buddies spying on you. What you do on the internet is acceptable behavior. But did your XO
really spy on you? Forums allow you to do what the U.S. Coast Guard would not. And I think people will believe me when I say forum owners and
moderators routinely delete your posts to protect your conduct. And yet you blame your XO for spying on you. And I am mindful that these guys in
here are your friends and support you.
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oyvvus says I'm "crazy"

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And oyvvus, people will like it when you said I am crazy. Can Alan be my teacher so I can learn "real" science? Do you know any physics?
Do you know why scientists say perpetual motion is impossible? Gravity is created out of empty space. That's like trying to create energy out
of thin air, it just won't happen, will it? Can you explain to me how gravity can exist in empty space?
An example is g = Gm/r^2, how can gravity exist outside of the matter which creates it? It can't. Scientists say that gravity does not have energy.
For it to have energy that implies that space is not empty. And if something (gravity) does not have energy then it's energy cannot be conserved.
Do I have to say that gravity is a force that has no energy when f = ma = mv = 1/2mv^2 = KE. I just proved that gravity has energy. You do
accept science, right? And it's like someone once asked me, would Bessler's Wheel work without gravity and I said no because there would be no directional force of energy which it could conserve as mechanical energy. Basically I'll be proving gravity has energy.
And other "crazy" work I'm pursuing which I'd say that gravity assists with the rate at which interactions occur dependent on the quantity of gases is available is this;

CO2 + H2O > CH2O + O2 (for the Chapman cycle).
Then 2CH2O > CH4 + CO2. This would explain what the IPCC has observed;Carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrous oxide (N2O), and methane (CH4) are each important to climate forcing and to the levels of stratospheric ozone https://csl.noaa.gov/assessments/ozone/ ... y/ch2.html In terms of the globally averaged ozone column, additional N2O leads to lower ozone levels, whereas additional CO2 and CH4 lead to higher ozone levels. Ozone depletion to date would have been greater if not for the historical increases in CO2 and CH4. The net impact on ozone recovery and future levels of stratospheric ozone thus depends on the future abundances of these gases. For many of the scenarios used in the most recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Assessment (IPCC, 2013), global ozone will increase to above pre-1980 levels due to future trends in the gases. https://csl.noaa.gov/assessments/ozone/ ... y/ch5.html
What I am proposing is a new process that Coulomb's Law might allow for. With Coulomb’s law it is about whether something is polar or nonpolar. This has to do with either having a charge (+ or -) or being neutral. In the upper atmosphere it is possible that the charge something has might be considered differently. An example is that with water and CO2 that their emission and absorption spectrums might allow for a negative and a positive charge. Basically the emission spectrum of CO2 allows it to be a positive charge while H2O's absorption spectrum would make it a negative charge. In this instance Coulomb's Law is a reference to consider molecular attraction. With the Joules-Thomson coefficient of CO2, its heat might also help it to attract water vapor.

And if I understand things right oyvvus, I am expected to give my work to Alan, right? This is literally PhD level research. It represents actual work just
as my builds do. And yet I have to allow myself be dominated by Alan because gravity doesn't have energy. With me, I'd prefer discussing research like
this and yet Bessler's Wheel will make that possible for me. And as with knowing perpetual motion, Alan says I have to prove it to him because I can't say
I know something. I'll be doing my experiment because no one has done it before including over 700 scientists at the IPCC. Science doesn't allow for my experiment so I developed my own theories. Could you imagine Coulomb's law and gravity allowing for a new process in atmospheric chemistry?
I think people will believe what I say. After all, my experiment will put me at the center of the climate change debate. And the IPCC will probably say "it
can't work". And yet their observations and math suggests it will work just like I anticipate my Bessler build will work and will reveal some of Bessler's secrets.
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Do You Know Science?

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Alan wants to teach me science before I do my science experiment. His posts says it all. And he's credible
at overunity.com, overunity.de and at besslerwheel.com. And everyone knows perpetual motion is impossible,
why Mr. Tim's Keeling principle is the rule of law at those 3 forums. I think people will find it hilarious when Ralph
Lortie (Stansfield, Oregon) and Alan Bauldree (Homer, La.) would tell people that they couldn't let them waste
their time building anything because Mr. Tim's "Keel Effect" proved perpetual motion was impossible.
And Stefan Hartmann (Berlin, Germany) as well as orpheus.org supported those 3 individuals. That's why I wasn't
allowed to use cancer as a shield (A.B. Hammer, 2011, besslerwheel.com - ultimate fraud thread) when I worked
as I could while being treated for cancer.
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You just go ahead James. Make good on your claims of sending people off to jail and quit your big talking. I dare you to do it. I'm not AB Hammer so I have nothing to fear.

You are so convinced you are right yet you are so wrong I love it. Go for it! Contact your legal counsel and get the ball rolling.

I am so going to enjoy this show. I've never lost a case yet, and this will be one more win for me because I will literally have to do nothing.

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Energy Out of Nothing

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Here is a wind turbine spinning. Can you see the air? You can't because light passes through it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/wUnVgSqoWW0?feature=share

And this is a short video taken from a live feed from the ISS (space station). It's in empty space so how can gravity exist
when space is empty? https://youtu.be/vTUZUWQ7G3U

So now we know that we can get energy out of thin air, we just can't see the air. So how can empty space have gravity to move
the ISS with? This is why I'm stupid, I ask stupid questions. Can anyone tell me why gravity has force in empty space? I'd say
dark matter but no one's seen it before.
I think with air, you shine a light through it like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZe8EHCD5l8 and if dark matter
propagates the motion of light, then how can we tell if it's there? The experiment I am pursuing in Atmospheric Chemistry and
Astrophysics (Astrophysics is not a part of Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics at the moment) will involve some of the basic
sciences like this. With dark matter, it would explain spooky actions at a distance like this talks about;
https://www.science.org/content/article ... enough-see

I'm going to enjoy the work I'm doing. I think my builds will turn out better (pun intended) if I'm not harassed which is why I'll
avoid forums. It's like AB Hammer told me quite often, he will never allow me to get away with attacking his credibility.
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And everyone knows perpetual motion is impossible,
why Mr. Tim's Keeling principle is the rule of law at those 3 forums. I think people will find it hilarious when Ralph
Lortie (Stansfield, Oregon) and Alan Bauldree (Homer, La.) would tell people that they couldn't let them waste
their time building anything because Mr. Tim's "Keel Effect" proved perpetual motion was impossible.
I wouldn't know, I don't visit those other forums. And the "keel effect" describes the state of a failed wheel, not PM impossibility (i.e. the mass of the wheel settles at the bottom (like the keel of a sailboat), making it almost impossible to tip over.) You can demonstrate this effect by placing a weight on the rim of a freely turning bicycle wheel, and watch it settle to it's lowest point (where it acts like the keel of a sailboat, hence the name of it... ;-)
As to your wheels, they are nicely crafted, but they'll never run. There is a PM principle for running wheels, and it is not evident in them. Sorry to be blunt, but that's the truth...

(There's more I could say, but I don't want to be rude...)
"....the mechanism is so simple that even a wheel may be too small to contain it...."
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