Cutting corners

[WaltzCee]

His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.”

contrasted with:

As the bible saying goes , separate the wheat from the chaff , so you better thresh to separate the good from the bad.

Good! I'm very relieved. I thought you were speaking to everyone generally yet it's obvious you were only talking about those whose pronouns are capitalized! That sure excludes me.

Well, back to the real topic. If one can mechanically model hyperbolic space, they can warp time. That was the principle of one of my failed efforts.

I'm watching intently. Maybe you'll touch on something I missed.

[johannesbender]

His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.”

contrasted with:

As the bible saying goes , separate the wheat from the chaff , so you better thresh to separate the good from the bad.

Good! I'm very relieved. I thought you were speaking to everyone generally yet it's obvious you were only talking about those whose pronouns are capitalized! That sure excludes me.

Well, back to the real topic. If one can mechanically model hyperbolic space, they can warp time. That was the principle of one of my failed efforts.

I'm watching intently. Maybe you'll touch on something I missed.

You don't need to travel when your already there.
I think that would be enough touching for now.

[WaltzCee]

. .. .. .
You don't need to travel when your already there.
I think that would be enough touching for now.

That was a very profound proverb. Here's one you might like.

Do not add to His words Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.

You can search my posts and see where I speculated PM needs a different math than euclidean geometry.

If you suppose there's something in it and would like to share, then you might consider getting off this tangent and get back to the matter.

ETA

Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:31 am

'till it breaks. Maybe a new geometry will emerge.

[johannesbender]

. .. .. .
You don't need to travel when your already there.
I think that would be enough touching for now.

That was a very profound proverb. Here's one you might like.

Do not add to His words Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.

You can search my posts and see where I speculated PM needs a different math than euclidean geometry.

If you suppose there's something in it and would like to share, then you might consider getting off this tangent and get back to the matter.

ETA

Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:31 am

'till it breaks. Maybe a new geometry will emerge.

What are you talking about ? I did not even talk about you or anything you said or did not say , are you drunk ?

[agor95]

Hello johannesbender

Sometimes it is best to focus on your train of thought and ignore the prattle of others.

I am reading and focusing on your logical reasoning.

P.S. I would not spank his bot to hard - he likes it!

All the Best

[johannesbender]

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So the last image i posted , i mentioned one skip creates the problem where if the outer radius torques only 120 degrees in total ,and the inner radius torques also 120 degrees in total , but have different torque angles.

Here is a simple example just for the sake of completion , if instead , the outer radius and the inner radius both skipped the same amount of degrees , then the torque angles remain the same for both radii , such that for example , torque of inner and outer radii A,B,C,D,E,F remain the same , so the advantage of the larger radius vs the smaller radius is maintained.

[johannesbender]

Hello johannesbender

Sometimes it is best to focus on your train of thought and ignore the prattle of others.

I am reading and focusing on your logical reasoning.

P.S. I would not spank his bot to hard - he likes it!

All the Best

Im sure Waltz made a joke and i made a joke back , just like im going to joke back at this now :

The first part of your post acknowledges COE. I don't see how a "skip" overcomes, negates, works around or bypasses that. You can't have cake and eat it too. Either, there is a flaw in conventional physics, or PM is not possible.

I just did , i took a nice big slice of cake and ate it.

[WaltzCee]

I just did , i took a nice big slice of cake and ate it.

This is going to be quite the magic act. I 'spect you will need to invoke the Orwellian spirit of double-speak.

Everyone is patiently waiting for your 'cake' to circle back around so we can watch you eat it the second time. You might want to call it 'cake' yet I'm more inclined to call it the stuff agor's brain is made of.

I don't honestly believe you can eat your cake & have it too, yet I'm sure you might eat someone else's cake and still have your cake.

That's what Bessler did. He ate Pythagoras' cake & still had his! Magic. Then he said it came from God. Then he said he figured it all by himself.

Bam! Magic squared.

• Intrinsic to the fabric of johannesbender's
  hyperbolic 4-d time/space model is the stuff agor's brain is made of

[johannesbender]

I think i should show you just how much you are off track here , on a tangent which had nothing to do with you in any way.

As the bible saying goes , separate the wheat from the chaff , so you better thresh to separate the good from the bad.

As the bible saying goes , separate the wheat from the chaff , so you better thresh to separate the good from the bad.

I'm no scholar, yet I've read it a few times.
Since you brought up the point, I'd like to read it.

Do yo have a link, johannesbender?

https://www.bible.com/bible/compare/LUK.3.17
https://www.selbl.org/separate-the-whea ... tthew-312/

His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.”

contrasted with:

As the bible saying goes , separate the wheat from the chaff , so you better thresh to separate the good from the bad.

Good! I'm very relieved. I thought you were speaking to everyone generally yet it's obvious you were only talking about those whose pronouns are capitalized! That sure excludes me.

Well, back to the real topic. If one can mechanically model hyperbolic space, they can warp time. That was the principle of one of my failed efforts.

I'm watching intently. Maybe you'll touch on something I missed.

You don't need to travel when your already there.
I think that would be enough touching for now.

And again , talking about the concepts i like about my design , that being bringing two points together instead of traveling from one to the other , the same theory is proposed to the effect that instead of traveling across vast distances in space that the points be brought together , the mass does not need to traverse when its already there .

Yet you :

. .. .. .
You don't need to travel when your already there.
I think that would be enough touching for now.

That was a very profound proverb. Here's one you might like.

Do not add to His words Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.

You can search my posts and see where I speculated PM needs a different math than euclidean geometry.

If you suppose there's something in it and would like to share, then you might consider getting off this tangent and get back to the matter.

ETA

Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:31 am

'till it breaks. Maybe a new geometry will emerge.

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Look closely to the second link i provided you with , did i make up words or did i just say what they said , you have a problem with those words they put together to explain a meaning in their opinion go and take it up with them , if i want to quote a bible verse i would have done so.

I am talking about me taking the things i consider good and getting rid of what i think is bad about my design and theory , eg "with a discerning mind".

Yet you respond , calling me a liar , saying i twist words from the bible and i should go and search your posts ?

You butted in here and made the subject about yourself out of thin air , and after i explain to you i did not talk about you , i did not mention you , did not say you said things nor did i say you did not not say certain things .

I just did , i took a nice big slice of cake and ate it.

This is going to be quite the magic act. I 'spect you will need to invoke the Orwellian spirit of double-speak.

Everyone is patiently waiting for your 'cake' to circle back around so we can watch you eat it the second time. You might want to call it 'cake' yet I'm more inclined to call it the stuff agor's brain is made of.

I don't honestly believe you can eat your cake & have it too, yet I'm sure you might eat someone else's cake and still have your cake.

That's what Bessler did. He ate Pythagoras' cake & still had his! Magic. Then he said it came from God. Then he said he figured it all by himself.

Bam! Magic squared.

• Intrinsic to the fabric of johannesbender's
  hyperbolic 4-d time/space model is the stuff agor's brain is made of

Yet , instead of saying "hey im sorry its a misunderstanding " you keep throwing your "cake" around the room , hope you clean up when your done with whatever this is.

Well , nice knowing you and good luck , "mute".

[Tarsier79]

JB. Any time you jump from large to small circumference, if you leave weight where it is, it will fall. Gravity powered rotation requires mass to drop. It then must be lifted. RB never lifts weight, it just balances it. If weights are balanced, the system PE doesn't fall, gravity doesn't drive it.

I tried reading your explanations a couple of times, but I still don't know exactly what you are doing. I think I need to wait to see an actual mechanism.

I think we are not at cake yet.

[WaltzCee]

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What are you talking about ? I did not even talk about you or anything you said or did not say , are you drunk ?

Then why are you quoting me?

His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.”

contrasted with:

As the bible saying goes , separate the wheat from the chaff , so you better thresh to separate the good from the bad.

Good! I'm very relieved. I thought you were speaking to everyone generally yet it's obvious you were only talking about those whose pronouns are capitalized! That sure excludes me.

Well, back to the real topic. If one can mechanically model hyperbolic space, they can warp time. That was the principle of one of my failed efforts.

I'm watching intently. Maybe you'll touch on something I missed.

You don't need to travel when your already there.
I think that would be enough touching for now.

[WaltzCee]

Yet you respond , calling me a liar , saying i twist words from the bible and i should go and searchur posts ?

I did not call you a liar, that must be your conscience talking to you. You are beginning to act like your pants are on fire.

Nor did I say you twist scripture. Don't get your white apron in a wad.

Yet , instead of saying "hey im sorry its a misunderstanding " you keep throwing your "cake" around the room , hope you clean up when your done with whatever this is.

It's not my cake, it's yours & you're the one slinging it.

[WaltzCee]

Something i have been wondering about was , what kind of geometric shape would have a total internal 240 degrees though.

I'm sorry you're an hysterical nut job with a guilty conscience. Now, back to your topic.

I've modeled noneuclidian polygons & put together a language I use that helps me visualize them.

This is basically WHoT® whereby the mass travels minimally yet its effect on CoR is substantial.

< waits for johannesbender's cake to hit the fan >

[johannesbender]

JB. Any time you jump from large to small circumference, if you leave weight where it is, it will fall. Gravity powered rotation requires mass to drop. It then must be lifted. RB never lifts weight, it just balances it. If weights are balanced, the system PE doesn't fall, gravity doesn't drive it.

I tried reading your explanations a couple of times, but I still don't know exactly what you are doing. I think I need to wait to see an actual mechanism.

I think we are not at cake yet.

The law of the lever determines the MA and the behavior of the following masses on the levers of a RB at A and B around the center pivots , agreed ?

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The principle of the RB makes it such that if i shifted any green or red mass up or down those arms , the force would not change for the law of the levers whatsoever , agreed ?
The same law of the lever governs the line drawn with a weight on each end too , agree?
The same law of the lever governs a large diameter with a weight on it , against a small diameter wheel with a weight on it too , agree ?

[johannesbender]

JB. Any time you jump from large to small circumference, if you leave weight where it is, it will fall. Gravity powered rotation requires mass to drop. It then must be lifted. RB never lifts weight, it just balances it. If weights are balanced, the system PE doesn't fall, gravity doesn't drive it.

I tried reading your explanations a couple of times, but I still don't know exactly what you are doing. I think I need to wait to see an actual mechanism.

I think we are not at cake yet.

Perhaps you did not catch on yet , but sure looks like i took a slice of cake.