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X404

The X404 is a variation of the X302 with the outer weights (circumference masses) opposite each other.

It also has inner weights based on an MT019, with a drop-through-center (DTC) geometry.

The inner weights are the driver masses. The outer, circumference weights are lifted by the driver.

A rod lock allows the user to lock the driver down in quadrant 4 and unlock it up in quadrant 1.

A linear spring helps boost the fall of the driver in Q1, and capture it on the other side down in Q4.

Pulley systems connect the drivers to the circumference masses.


It's a little tricky to run.
You have to start it out at a low angular velocity and slowly adjust the ropes tight.
Then adjust the motor velocity.
Then adjust the lock/unlock angles.
Then adjust the spring constant.
Then adjust the mass of the inner weight.
Then readjust any previous controls.

Ideally you want to lift two 1kg outer masses with an inner mass less than 2 kg, but even with the spring boost, it wouldn't happen.

youtube video here: https://youtu.be/TZIQ4zSwjNo
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X404 v1.1 Simulation.TXT
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ME wrote:Cool.
Attached an animation for those without WM2D
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This as excellent thread. A primer on the MT's.
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There is a previous post on this thread that points to a youtube video animating Bessler's 4 wheels side by side to show their relative angular velocities: https://youtu.be/l1PEs1Jcg1s

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Youtube's last updated terms stated they can play any add over any video they want.

It would be nice to have a power comparison on each wheel as well. I'm pretty sure the powers we do know are calculated guesses anyway.
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The power output is dependant on the mass, the hub and the oscillation frequency,

So you can have a small wheel which has more power output than a bigger one if you repeat this function more often.

Bessler was aware of this function, I am pretty sure, because he said that he can calculate it.

I am not aware what he did inside of the wheel but from the eyewitness we have 26 RPM. So we have an oscillation frequency.
We got also the information of the weights, 4 pounds = 2 KG
We got additional information with the 8 impacts on the downgoing side per turn of the wheel.
So we repeat the inner function 8 times per turn or 360 degrees /8 as result 45 degrees.
We repeat this internal function every 45 degrees.

The hub is depending on the size of the wheel and can be calculated as the half of the radius.

With this given information we can calculate the power output.

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Thanks Georg. for showng details I had forgotten.
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Ken Behrendt posted a link on my latest video pointing to his 'recent discovery' from a few years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxzkf8h-LQ4 about Bessler's lever design.

I didn't think he was still around these parts of the web.

Personally I think drawing lines between eyeballs and hair curls while looking for clues is a bit extreme, but to each their own.
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X302 v2.3

This is the X302 v1 modified to have a radially outward driver mass that opens and closes the circumference masses using two pulley systems (one for open, one for close).

When building the model, the user can select various parameters, including:
The angle offset of the driver mechanism from the circumference mechanism.
The inner start distance of the driver mass.
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X302 v2.3 Simulation - Pulley geometry.  Open to Closed position.
X302 v2.3 Simulation - Pulley geometry. Open to Closed position.
X302 v2.3 Simulation - Pulley geometry.  Closed to open position.
X302 v2.3 Simulation - Pulley geometry. Closed to open position.
X302 v2.3 Simulation - Calculating the linear distance the mass will travel (for the pulley length calculations).
X302 v2.3 Simulation - Calculating the linear distance the mass will travel (for the pulley length calculations).
X302 v2.3 Simulation - Geometry
X302 v2.3 Simulation - Geometry
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X302 v2.3 video: https://youtu.be/cLBqv5NSEh8

The video shows various driver offset angles and different driver start distances.

There are too many possible parameter variations to show in a short video, but if you have WM2D you can try varying the parameters you believe might work.

And if you understand why all these gravity engines suffer the same fate, you might not want to waste your time :)
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I Updated the X302 video. This one has the weights colored and it's easier to see which driver is driving which circumference weights.

https://youtu.be/DM_4A58zPgU
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The weights look they are working the opposite of OB to me.
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That's the problem with all of these gravity wheels. The COM is always on the wrong side of where you want it to be.

And if you run them in reverse, the COM flips to the other side.

They are always working opposite to OB.
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