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POSTED ON 23 OCTOBER 2019
Welcome to ‘Beautiful Energy’
Unfortunately, it is not in our current interest to provide information about our revolutionary system. As soon as the time is right you will be informed via regular media and this site of our next major step in the green revolution.

For the time being there is no contact form because answering the flood of questions from all over the world has become an impossible task.
The above is the latest on the mooie website. In fact they still do have a
contact form so they are obviously not very well organised.

Also, some of the information provided previously seems to have disappeared
Maybe they feel they disclosed too much. They certainly did with the Italian
site - or maybe that was just latin enthusiasm.
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Furcurequs wrote:In looking over the revamped website, it seems they are now claiming a new pneumatic/hydraulic design that may only be a little over two years old and with which they've supposedly only recently been successful. The following was from their January 2018 newsletter.
More than 750 days ago we had a major breakthrough with a new invention. And last month we achieved our goal: We can transform gravity into a driving force; 100% kinetic energy, generated from the quadratic acceleration of weights in our “AirGravityMill�, driving a generator.
The “AirGravityMill� is a 100% closed pneumatic/hydraulic system and therefore does not require special permits.
Of course, what happened to their old design? We've seen this sort of thing before, though. Someone with a website and bold claims and little to nothing else.
There is nothing on their site now about the major breakthrough mentioned
above.
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Having looked back through the mooie threads and seen the various patents
with radical changes in design it is understandable if people feel the whole
thing is an investment scam. The fact that Italians are involved doesn't help.

However, for me the latest one makes sense which the previous ones never
did since I couldn't see how they might work.

https://www.mooie-energie-italia.it/it/sistema/

This one leads to a decent enough analogy to the Carnot cycle with strain in
a spring (in essence EG) analogous to pressure and NG analogous to
temperature. Thus the sections over which gravity potential is transferred
to the spring and the section over which gravity potential is released from
the spring are analogous to the adiabatic legs of the Carnot.

Also, this cycle analogy has led me to eschew my previous assertion that
the energy cannot come from NG.

Now it is true the energy is a result of the interaction NE of N and E, neither
on their own being sufficient. But just as we attribute the energy obtained
from the Carnot due to temperature rather than pressure since temperature
represents the deeper scale of motion, so also we should attribute the energy
obtained from the mooie to Newtonian Gravity rather than Ersatz Gravity
since, here, NG represents the deeper scale of motion.

We can see this from the fact that the energy transmission speed for NG
(and its penetration) is immeasurably greater than the transmission speed for
EG (the speed of light). If it weren't then celestial mechanics wouldn't work.

Funnily enough the fact that we instinctively accept the mooie will work
underground shows that we recognise NG penetrates materials to a deeper
level than EG.

So you can see that establishment physics's immediate reaction to a
working mooie is that it has to be a fraud.

They are going to be very uncomfortable when they find it isn't.
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That's interesting. My website has recently been visited nine times from
the Netherlands.

Never had one before so it's almost certainly Sjack. He must have gotten
the link from this forum since on the mooie contact forms I only pasted
links to this forum.

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Mmm......
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I found the missing information on a cached page.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us
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zoelra wrote:I found the missing information on a cached page.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us
That's very useful bit of research, zoelra. Well done. I've clicked your greenie.
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According to my very rough calculations the output of the Italian mooie
is 4 kilowatts which seems adequate for the average household - especially
if there is some storage for peak loads - a water tank for example in the
case of central heating requirements.

Four kilowatts is 70,000 kWh per year
In the US typical household power consumption is about 11,700 kWh
each year, in France it is 6,400 kWh, in the UK it is 4,600 kWh and in China
around 1,300 kWh.
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According to my very rough calculations the output of a leprechaun is about 200 Watts. More than enough for a household in china.
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A leprechaun is a type of fairy of the Aos Sí in Irish folklore. They are usually
depicted as little bearded men,🧔 wearing a coat and
hat, 🎩 who partake in mischief. They are solitary
creatures who spend their time making and mending shoes and have a hidden
pot of gold 💰at the end of the rainbow.
Maybe we've found their pot of gold, eh!
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Unlike those pagan christians, I'm not in it for the gold.
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Interesting. What are you in it for?
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For the household, of course.
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Good for you.
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What are you in it for?
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Eternal salvation.

And now I must really go back to bed.

Good night - or should I say, good afternoon.
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