Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel

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Re: Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel

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Let’s notice that in Sam’s design the wheel Center of gravity does not change when the top ball in flight is removed.

In MT1, the CoG change when the right ball in flight is removed. Therefore it’ll start turn counter as soon as the ball is removed.

Is this different in design significant? Yes

The impact is a force. Force at a tangent creates torque. We don’t want the wheel to turn left when we trying to torque it right.

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By the way, ball in flight means free fall.

Even rolling downhill has a degree of free fall.

When it is in free fall, might as well considered it weightless.
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Waltcy / leafy,
I see how to fix it. When the flat lifts the roller up, it causes a lot of back torque. To prevent that; (when the casing is at top dead center), I should form a square corner in the lower right hand corner of it, (for CW rotation), to create a flat section. This way, it doesn't have to lift the roller up. Also, it might make it a little bit top heavy, because the roller should be farther from the center. Maybe that's how Bessler got it to self start; start in any position. If I'm right that is.

Anyway, that's the plan, all it takes is work-----------------------Sam
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Sam you are missing about 30% of the required force to complete a cycle , that 30% has to be applied constantly for 360 degrees to just maintain the cycle to overcome all the frictional an resistance losses , this is typically the missing amount of energy we talk about that is eaten up , COE .
Answer: because the friction, owing to the machine's own weight and heaviness,
eats away all the supposed superior weight; sufficiently understood
Bessler understood this too.
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Hi johannes,
I'm probably missing more than that! There are a lot of losses in these rollers. You may be right; it might not work-------------------Sam
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Maybe Sam means this.

Engineering, double check. Lol

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No leafy! The casing is no longer in a prefect circle. At the top, the lower right hand quadrant, (of the casing), becomes a square corner. In order to form a flat place / flat place in the casing. Make a square corner in the casing-----------------------------Sam
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Sam Peppiatt wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:34 pm No leafy! The casing is no longer in a prefect circle. At the top, the lower right hand quadrant, becomes a square corner. In order to form a flat place, a flat place in the casing. Make a square corner in the casing-----------------------------Sam
Ok,

Engineering, anybody, double check what Sam’s saying. Lol
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Do I have to draw you a picture? l l o l
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Wow Sam…wow lol
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Security, could you march Leafy to his office with a cardboard box?
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WaltzCee wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:52 am I think Sam's design cracks the whip at the wrong time, then looses control of the power at the instant it appears

imo, those are flaws in this design. If they can be resolved this goose might fly.
I've figured out what intrigues me about Sam's model. Here is a thought experiment. Get a handful of quarks and photons, then throw them

They immediately are moving at the speed of light. Faster, even. Light launching off of light. Particle entanglement. Then you declare, light come back! At a brief moment light stops, before it can return

Then you tie it in a knot by telling some quarks to circle it. You've made an atom!!!

I think that's how my client did it. The Father of Lights tied light in a knot to make the very first dirt that made us. God cracked a whip
  • The material world is a manifestation of light. Just light tied in a knot. Like a belly button.
oooom, belly button, belly button

The way Einstein described it is:

E = m × c^2

I agree with Einstein, but in my own way.

ETA

Sam, if you were to license THE FLETCHER and install it on your contraption, it would work.

Licensing agreements at this juncture are probably cost prohibitive.
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  • I think Sam's design cracks the whip at the wrong time, then looses control of the power at the instant it appears
It may be this power is the same Frank Grimmer referenced as some derivative power.

How does one catch that 5th derivative power, Frank? much less redirect it.

Did Newton lie?

Even if we crack the whip, how can we capture such a brief moment in time? The laws of physics need not apply for that job

One must in·voke a super natural contraption.
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Waltcy, It's just a common, plain / ordinary / run of the mill gravity wheel. As Beesler would say; there's nothing fancy full about it-----Sam
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One must in·voke a super natural contraption
a Her·cu·le·an task if ever there was one. Everyone in Engineering has installed thinking caps. Their reasoning is, the design has to be sentient. It has to know to the nanosecond, when it's up.

Finally, the design theme is Intelligent, intelligent design. Hence, the thinking caps.
  • You may find this interesting and hopefully not vacuous. :)
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