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james.lindgard wrote:AB Hammer,
Yet you posted
>> Some here get tunnel vision on their approaches. Ralph warned me on this when I fist joined the forum. <<

Can you show where Ralph told you that ?

At ME, I am about the only person in here who has considered Bessler's MT's and then built something.


AB Hammer, can I thank you ? Because of your continued slander against me, people will not discuss Bessler's Mt's with me or how they make his wheels known. This means that I alone know how Bessler's wheels worked. It is interesting though that when you have no education that you can intimidate people who do have an education.
Kind of why I doubt rlortie told you that people should pursue an understanding of Bessler's work in a haphazard manner. After all, since you have no schooling, then imo if someone works in a methodical way, you have nothing to contribute
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We don't need any of your delusion of you are the only one who knows anything. Self consumed arrogants is Just one of many reasons you have been banned from so many forums, and even your own forum canceled by the server.

Like in your statement
This means that I alone know how Bessler's wheels worked.
@ All

James Lindgaard is the one who slanders myself and sometimes others. I don't like talking to him for if he don't get his way he starts to attack with lies and deception.

Tanks jim_mich, for posting that Ralph has often posted about tunnel vision problems. He has also told me on a personal phone conversation.
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

So With out a dream, there is no vision.

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Post by james.lindgard »

AB Hammer,
Please have rlortie post that he has often posted about tunnel vision problems. Until he does or his posts are shown, merely hearsay.
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LOL
James, your deflective measures are funny.
But AB Hammer is not your enemy. If you like it or not, he's the other flank !

Jim showed a list of those posts a page back, I found a suitable reply:
ken_behrendt wrote:If one focuses on the tree, then they may not see the forest, but they will learn a lot about that tree!
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... 6834#16834
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james.lindgard wrote:AB Hammer,
Please have rlortie post that he has often posted about tunnel vision problems. Until he does or his posts are shown, merely hearsay.
Come on james.lindgard, are you really so ignorant that you failed to see the list that I compiled just for you, which list showed links to all 20 posts where Ralph wrote about "tunnel vision".

Just to make it so easy that a cave man could see it, I'll re-post it here:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#85790
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#72170
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#48228
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#44604
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#43378
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#42595
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#42565
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#42378
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#42353
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#42306
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#41256
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#37226
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#35569
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#34166
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#32323
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#30833
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#30831
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#30106
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#26076
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#16829

Just click on any one of the above twenty links, and you will see where Ralph used the words "tunnel vision". It was a common phrase for him.

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@Jim_Mich and AB Hammer,
I like the math I've done. It is sad that you've dragged rlortie into this without asking him if he wishes to become involved in it. It's possible that he might just as easily say "Now this is where good clean collaboration pays off!"
I think this shows where neither one of you have any respect for other forum members.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#85790
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james.lindgard wrote:AB Hammer,
Please have rlortie post that he has often posted about tunnel vision problems. Until he does or his posts are shown, merely hearsay.
A Lindgaard deflection after being busted and shown overwhelming evidence..
james.lindgard wrote:@Jim_Mich and AB Hammer,
I like the math I've done. It is sad that you've dragged rlortie into this without asking him if he wishes to become involved in it. It's possible that he might just as easily say "Now this is where good clean collaboration pays off!"
I think this shows where neither one of you have any respect for other forum members.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... sion#85790
Another Lindgaard deflection to try to point the finger at someone else.

Lindgaard is a prime example of tunnel vision for his hate of myself and sometimes others who wont worship his intellect and work. So he lies and distorts anything he can find to attack with.

Lindgaard need to just do his builds and leave others alone.
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

So With out a dream, there is no vision.

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AB, James operates in a completely different forest, and is playing chess with the trees.
AB: as suggested before: (I know it's hard, but) don't move !
James: interesting strategy !
The rest: don't try to understand !
ME: damn, I moved myself....
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Post by Mark »

Alan, and Lindgard,

Take your Mutual Aggravation Society meeting back to one of your own threads !!

This BS is not welcome here!
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ME wrote:AB, James operates in a completely different forest, and is playing chess with the trees.
AB: as suggested before: (I know it's hard, but) don't move !
James: interesting strategy !
The rest: don't try to understand !
ME: damn, I moved myself....
What is interesting ME ? The number of times AB Hammer has called me a fraud while showing no work of his own ? Yet I tolerated him like a man.
As for the histroy of this forum, AB Hammer and rlortie promoted for a number of years the "Keel Effect". That stopped many discussions on Bessler's drawings because it shows most of them do not work.
And if either of the designs I am pursuing works, it will only be because I tolerated much harassment from formerly well respected forum members who told me I had to adhere to what they believed.
Any time AB Hammer shws the work he claims to have, then he can say that when a person is focused that they actually have so called tunnel vision. But I haven't seen anyone in here build a Bessler drawing where they posted their work. I haven't seen it. And anyone who builds knows it is not tunnel vision and by AB Hammer suggesting that people pursue Bessler's work in a haphazard manner in my opinion is wrong. What if people went to school ? AB Hammer never did and it shows.
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And why do you feel I need to know?
Don't answer because:
And if either of the designs I am pursuing works, it will only be because I tolerated much harassment from formerly well respected forum members who told me I had to adhere to what they believed.
With this sentence you have solved my problem, and yours as well.
- Tolerate those 'harassment' as good as you can;
- Believe what you think is needed to be believed;
- Pursue those designs you choose yourself, and hope/know it works;
As for those forum-members you mentioned: I'm capable of forming my own opinions.
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Post by james.lindgard »

ME,
There used to be people in here who discussed builds. They saw what happened to me and were told their opinion didn't mattet. There is a thread where it was debated.
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james.lindgard wrote: What is interesting ME ? The number of times AB Hammer has called me a fraud while showing no work of his own ? Yet I tolerated him like a man.
As for the histroy of this forum, AB Hammer and rlortie promoted for a number of years the "Keel Effect". That stopped many discussions on Bessler's drawings because it shows most of them do not work.
And if either of the designs I am pursuing works, it will only be because I tolerated much harassment from formerly well respected forum members who told me I had to adhere to what they believed.
Any time AB Hammer shws the work he claims to have, then he can say that when a person is focused that they actually have so called tunnel vision. But I haven't seen anyone in here build a Bessler drawing where they posted their work. I haven't seen it. And anyone who builds knows it is not tunnel vision and by AB Hammer suggesting that people pursue Bessler's work in a haphazard manner in my opinion is wrong. What if people went to school ? AB Hammer never did and it shows.
Mark said stop the BS and yet Lindgaard post his twisted lies again.

The link to my videos of my older wheels and soon some new ones is now in my signature section.

I will not post to Lindgaard on this string no more in respect to Mark.
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

So With out a dream, there is no vision.

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Sorry James, I'm sure there are a lot of threads with a lot of debatable opinions... and not all discussing any builds.

You see, people sometimes get stuck... sometimes a lot, not much one can do about - ah well, tolerate as much as you can, otherwise things escalate and people get more stuck and the circle suffocates itself.
Things come, things go - one way or the other.
The only choice you have lies in the choice of quality of such process, which forms the baseline for the next iteration - as you obviously know, because of your references to matters from the past coloring your present.

I don't know what happened to those other people nor can I speak for them, only for myself: You've probably seen my contributions on this board: not a lot of building either - I just approach things differently.
I think it helps, when you think it's not: press the red dot - that's basically what this very topic is about.

I hope you'll agree with me that this sub-conversation (which is besides this topic) does not have any added value either - no matter if you are right or wrong, or if I'm right or wrong-
But we both know that any perpetual motion device, or any device, does not operate because of an opinion.
- yeah well, besides our brains who think they do: but still there's only room for one opinion, if we're lucky ... I think ... right?
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I am new here and quite confused at this. The dot system is nothing more than a popularity contest. Is this forum here to discuss solutions or stroke egos? If it is for the latter please advise as I will leave as quickly as I entered.

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Post by ovyyus »

Clyde, great first post.

Everyone is here for different reasons, or combination of reasons. Some want to learn, some want to teach, some want entertainment, some want a solution, some want vindication, some want to chat, some want to contribute, some want to wreck, some want respect, some want friendship, some want the impossible, some want to preach, some want to help, some want to bully, some want to build, some want to scam, some want to participate, some want to complain, some want to share, some are confused, etc.

No one is forced to be here. You're welcome. Good luck.
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