A simple electric heater, which has efficiency greater than 1

[George1]

Hi guys,
Please look at our last post (Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:58 pm) in the topic "IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?".
Looking forward to your answer.
George

[George1]

Hi guys,
Please look at our last post (Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:40 pm) in the topic "IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?".
Looking forward to your answer.
George

[agor95]

Has it anything to do with an electric heater?

[George1]

No, it hasn't. The electric heater and the reactionless drive system are two different things. We are only trying to consider them simultaneously.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George

[George1]

Do you have any objections against our theoretical conception, related to a simple electric heater, which has efficiency greater than 1? (Precise experiments are quite difficut to be carried out, but we still keep experimenting and perfecting further our experimental devices. We hope that in the nearest future we will have reliable experiental results.)
Looking forward to your answer.
George

[George1]

Please have a look at https://overunity.com/18134/a-simple-el ... 40747/#new. This is the last post of 02:44:16 PM.

[George1]

What is your opinion related to our last letter posted on Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:27 pm? Any recommendations, objections, positive criticism?
Looking forward to your answer.
George

[George1]

WHY DO YOU FEAR THE TRUTH?
Do you have any theoretical (ONLY THEORETICAL!) objections?

[Georg Künstler]

Hi George1,
a simple electrical heater has an efficiency greater than 1, but only under specific circumstands.

But you must find this specific conditions.
You Need to find the Point where you release the electrical heater energy..

To say it clearer, your electrical heater is the start trigger to release the other energy. One old example is the diesel engine. the electrical heater starts the process.

The efficiency is compared to your invested energy greater than 1, but you use then the other energy source (in the above example the diesel).

So also a match, lighter (Streichholz) has an Efficiency greater than 1, if it meets the right condition.

I compare it again with that what will happen in nature, with the right condition we will get the positive Feedback Loop. the lighter will start the process until the complete Wood of the forest will be burned.

So if you will find the specific condition to start a positive Feedback Loop with your electrical heater then you are on the right track.

I think no one else here on the board can help you with your electrical heater, because the members here a looking for a gravity driven Wheel.

The above given example should allow you to find this right conditions for your experimental device.

[George1]

Hi Georg,
Yes, you are absolutely right! But here instead of forest wood you have water. Both forest wood and water are given in nature and can be used freely and easily.
So you say in an indirect way that any standard electroyzer can be used as a heater of effiency bigger than 1, aren't you?
Looking forward to your answer.
George

[Georg Künstler]

Hi George1,
yes indeed, you always include an other source of energy to achive the efficiancy greater then 1.
The electrical heater acts as the match, lighter.
The lighter will not work under water, the electrical heater does.

I will give you an other example:
Farmers stretch a film over their vegetables in winter.
The plants will not grow if the temperature is too low.
if you increase the temperature of say 9 degrees Celsius, which you achieve with the foil, film you create the start energy for the growing.

So here the foil, film is the starter of the process.

it is necessary to find the correct location for your electrical heater to release his energy and activate the other energy source to your advantage.

[George1]

Hi Georg,
Some parts of your last post are correct and some are not. There is some misunderstanding here. A standard electrolyzer does not need special conditions. Standard room temperature and standard atmospheric pressure are just enough for the good working of a standard hydrogen generating electrolyzer.
Please read carefully again our posts in order to understand our concept.
Looking forwrd to your answer.
Regards,
George

[Georg Künstler]

George1 wrote:

Standard room temperature and standard atmospheric pressure are just enough

here you already use an additional energy, standard atmospheric pressure is a form of energy.
Standard room temperature is also a form of energy.

So you use 2 different additional energy forms.

Your start condition will not work in space.

[George1]

Hi Georg,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
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1) Yes, you are absolutely right. Any standard hydrogen generating electrolyzer works perfectly on Earth's surface. And it has COP > 1 only on Earth's surface where standard atmospheric pressure and standard room pressure are available in general. But our electroyzer-related-and-heat-generating conception is directed to cover the energy needs of 7.8 Billion (December 2019) people living on Earth under normal conditions of environment. It is not directed to cover the energy needs of several astronauts who live temporarily in space.
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2) But as if you start a new interesting discussion. How would a standard hydrogen-generating electrolyzer behave inside a standard spacecraft? I am not an expert but as if inside modern crewed spececrafts astronauts live and work under normal living conditions and only gravity is not available. It seems to me that any standard hydrogen-generating electrolyzer would work perfectly even without the presence of gravitation and we would have again COP > 1. What is your opinion?
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Looking forward to your answer.
George

[Georg Künstler]

Hi George1,

A good location for your electrical heater will be the Himalaya mountain.

you can melt the ice to water. this will require some energy, i know.
but you can easily make the calculation which energy you will need to melt the ice and what energy is in the ice depending on its high.

The difference is your "free" energy.
So your electrical heater is the releaser of the potential energy.

it is regardless who brought the ice to the mountain, you make use of this stored energy.