Zeroing in on Bessler's wheel

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi WaltCee,

I know what radians are; they come from the sun, right----------------------------------Sam

[Georg Künstler]

here another example for the parasitic oscillation.

The springs are compressed/released with the pendulum on the right side.

The middle of the 2 springs will change the suspension point of the second pendulum.
The suspension point is wandering from left to right and reverse.
Both pendulums will start to swing.

This will result in an undamped oscillation driven with gravity force only.

@Sam
the first step of a gravity wheel is to create an undamped oscillation.
In the second step you control this undamped oscillation in a specific way.

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi Georg,

What can I say; I stand corrected-----------------------------------------Sam

[agor95]

Well

You could create a gravity wheel that used another principle.

However that would require you to be sitting down for it to be correctly understood.

Regards

[Georg Künstler]

If you know how to manipulate the speed of the wandering suspension point, then you can manipulate it in that way that you will get an energy difference between one half side of the wheel and the other half side of the wheel.

I am using exact the version of the wandering suspension point in my patent,
so I cannot tell you more in the moment how this is being managed.

[raj]

Georg,
That's the way to go.
Patent application gives you, albeit, temporary intellectual property protection, even if you dare cast your pearls in front of the crowd.

[unstable]

Hi, I believe that if it were possible to get a swing without damping someone would have done it already. I don't think there is a way to maintain an oscillation without putting energy into the system.

[Georg Künstler]

Hi Unstable,

by unstable » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:40 am

Hi, I believe that if it were possible to get a swing without damping someone would have done it already. I don't think there is a way to maintain an oscillation without putting energy into the system.

The problem is that technicians know how to create an undamped oscillation.
Engineers usually work very hard to eliminate resonance from a mechanical system, as they perceive it to be counter-productive.

If an externally timed and pulsed (or periodic) force is applied in-phase with the naturally occurring resonance of a system, the frequency amplitude is further excited and increases and the system can become very unstable and be threatened by so called resonance-catastrophe (or self-amplifying destruction).

Bessler has found a way to control the swinging,
He managed to create a positive feedback loop and to control this swinging that it is not exceed a specific range.

The 26 RPM of the turning of the wheel is the natural frequency of the wheel.

[agor95]

I am using exact the version of the wandering suspension point in my patent,
so I cannot tell you more in the moment how this is being managed.

I can respect patent and patent law.
Were you have disclosed your device and made it available to all.

Raj is correct you have exclusive rights to the information and usage of that information. Legal desist notices are an option.

However the principle of a patent is based on 'disclosure and exclusivity'.

So you want and have exclusivity for a time.
Therefore can you disclose the patent number and office were it is registered?

That will address your obligation to the principle of disclosure.

You never know a member may finance or help you in some way.

All the Best

[WaltzCee]

I am using exact the version of the wandering suspension point in my patent,
so I cannot tell you more in the moment how this is being managed.

I can respect patent and patent law.
Were you have disclosed your device and made it available to all.

Raj is correct you have exclusive rights to the information and usage of that information. Legal desist notices are an option.

However the principle of a patent is based on 'disclosure and exclusivity'.

So you want and have exclusivity for a time.
Therefore can you disclose the patent number and office were it is registered?

That will address your obligation to the principle of disclosure.

You never know a member may finance or help you in some way.

All the Best

https://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopi ... 65#p182865

[Sam Peppiatt]

FWEIW,

It has occurred to me that the pendulums HAVE to work in pairs. Only one of them can flip up, at a time, while the other one holds. A spring goes all the way across to connect one pend. to the other. Again, only ONE out of a pair, can drive the wheel. Anyway, I'll see how it goes-------------------Sam

[WaltzCee]

FWEIW,

It has occurred to me that the pendulums HAVE to work in pairs. Only one of them can flip up, at a time, while the other one holds. A spring goes all the way across to connect one pend. to the other. Again, only ONE out of a pair, can drive the wheel. Anyway, I'll see how it goes-------------------Sam

my pendulum works alone.

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https://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopi ... #p183787

[Sam Peppiatt]

Hi WaltzCee,

I was just waving my arms around; haven't tried it yet. Maybe your idea is better-----------------------------------------Sam

[Sam Peppiatt]

To take the idea one step farther; one pend. does the heavy lifting, while the other one drives the wheel. In other words a pendulum can't lift it's self----------------------Sam

[Georg Künstler]

Hi Sam,

by Sam Peppiatt » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:27 am

To take the idea one step farther; one pend. does the heavy lifting, while the other one drives the wheel. In other words a pendulum can't lift it's self----------------------Sam

you said :a pendulum can't lift it's self, that is true

But one pendulum can lift an other pendulum when they are oscillating.
When both are oscillating then you get the function where you can lift a 4 ounce weight with a 1 ounce weight.

It is a basic stuff. Two pendulums are acting in an offset of 180 degrees. Think thereby on the moving suspension point.

What you will do with the 4 ounce weight, after it is lifted, is on an other task. you can drop it again or you can use it to power a wheel.