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build it then you can have an attitude and call us names.
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johannesbender wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:05 am fake imo.
You put a good case, But just check the dynamic activity.

Both the sides are dropping one dropping to an inner position and the other to an outer position.
When a mass drops it has less effective weight.

The dropped position weights; There is one further out on the right than the left.

What do you think?

There is some dynamics they are not exploiting - yet.

P.S. This is down to heatstroke ;) The LAWs of Thermodynamics are related to Therms and their dynamic movement.
This device looks to be the same temperature as the room so these LAWS do not apply.
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I guarantee you if you build this, it will not work. There is nothing inherently different about it. Don't believe me? Build it and then you will see that without assistance it will not run. It's too jerky to be real. Anyone that falls for it deserves to build it. I may be hated for speaking the truth, but go for it. You're only deceiving yourselves.
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bruno wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:25 pm Il dibattito è sterile; la soluzione, come ha consigliato qualcuno, è la verifica con la costruzione; non dovrebbe essere difficile visto che alcuni membri qui posseggono stampanti 3D e addirittura il disco in plastica e le guide in acciaio.
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google translate wrote: The debate is sterile; the solution, as someone has suggested, is verification with construction; it shouldn't be difficult since some members here have 3D printers and even the plastic disc and steel guides.
Greetings from Bruno.
Do they offer the files to print the parts, Bruno?
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agor95 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:53 pm
johannesbender wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:05 am fake imo.
You put a good case, But just check the dynamic activity.

Both the sides are dropping one dropping to an inner position and the other to an outer position.
When a mass drops it has less effective weight.

The dropped position weights; There is one further out on the right than the left.

What do you think?

There is some dynamics they are not exploiting - yet.

P.S. This is down to heatstroke ;) The LAWs of Thermodynamics are related to Therms and their dynamic movement.
This device looks to be the same temperature as the room so these LAWS do not apply.
In my opinion that's all she wrote , but you guys are free to look in to it , well done for Bruno to bring it up too.
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agor95 wrote:Hello ovyyus

The link gets me asking the question; What criteria would a perpetual motion device need to pass?
Reproducibility.
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Bruno, they even said it was April 1.
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Bruno, they even said it was April 1.
Plausible deniability?
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Their description is more telling than the entire video.


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I don't believe that the video was released on April 1st even though YouTube says so. I've caught YouTube lying before. Websites are unreliable sources of information. I saw it in June and you guys are fanatics about this stuff. It should have popped up here sooner. This is why first to invent should be the law because first to file can be lied about by software programmers and software programmers has to be the least trustworthy person to put in charge of prior art. Total scam. First to file is only as good as the reliable sources and fans are not reliable sources and neither are software programs.
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Comunque sia tutto questo potrebbe essere un ulteriore motivo per non chiudere questo meraviglioso sito pieno di menti eccelse che partoriscono sempre nuove idee.
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However, all this could be a further reason not to close this wonderful site full of excellent minds that always give birth to new ideas. Greetings from bruno
Not to close this site? Exactly who in the hell do you suppose you are? Other than a sarcastic bastard.

Who died and put you in charge?
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Io non sono nessuno, il mio è solo un suggerimento; se ho offeso qualcuno chiedo scusa umilmente; ma non voglio cancellarmi da questo sito, anzi lo ritengo molto utile.
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bruno wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:58 am Io non sono nessuno, il mio è solo un suggerimento; se ho offeso qualcuno chiedo scusa umilmente; ma non voglio cancellarmi da questo sito, anzi lo ritengo molto utile.
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am nobody, mine is only a suggestion; if I have offended someone I humbly apologize; but I do not want to delete myself from this site, indeed I consider it very useful. Greetings from Bruno
I wonder Bruno, what relationship do yo have with the folks that posted that video.
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I think translation may be unkind to you bruno.
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A Valzer: il video l'ho trovato per caso; non ho nessun rapporto con quelle persone ,anzi ringrazio Valzer per aver pubblicato quella serie di indirizzi che aprono gli occhi.
Grazie ancora da Bruno
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ovyyus wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:09 pm
agor95 wrote:What criteria would a perpetual motion device need to pass?
Reproducibility.
A good criteria and as such we should be designing physical builds that can be made by others.

Not 12 foot 40 years to build multi painted complex monstrosities that nobody in there right mind would replicate.

So a simple table top example made in wood could fit the requirement.

I also like the criteria of lifting a mass over several rotations of the wheel.

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