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WaltzCee wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:53 pm
What I worked on this morning. While the 2 axle mounts will be off by 1.5mm or 1/16 in., I can live
with that. They are close in appearance so my needing surgery comes before hand planing them to
be very close dimensionally. And now I'll need to watch a movie.
The surgeons are going to have quite the problem giving James an asshole-ectomy. They'll be down there whittling a bit of asshole off, examining what's left, seeing it's asshole too.

Before you know it there will be no James left (he's 100% asshole) except for his boots, they're full of bull crap.
And this is why I can't show anymore work in here. Is this what orpheus.org supports as leadership? It is what ab hammer taught
as how to get a wheel without doing the work. Just attack the person building something and then say I was teaching/motivating
that person. And without my constant attacks they never would've gotten any work done.

Walt, when you say
Before you know it there will be no James left
are you hoping I will kill myself? That's the only
way there'd be no me left. You know, if I were dead.
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Happy father-in-law, dead son-in-law. Not a problem. My being constantly attacked, not a problem.
I can fix the broken arm. My relationship with Americans? As ab hammer posted to me, I need to quit
being a jerk and start mending fences with him. I don't like ab hammer so do not know why I should
be obligated to doing what he wants when I finance my own builds. He chose not to work with me,
why is that my problem? As he said, Americans are served.

What I might do for fun is to build a simple perpetual motion machine which would be my invention.
I plan on doing it next anyway. It'd support me living in another country.
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I have the wood I need to make the plates to strengthen the frame. Since they'll be made from oak and the outside will be rigged,
everything should be good to go when finished. The image shows a tripod I made for my tablet. I had builders block so needed a
project I could do without using any measuring tool. Just drill and cut then assemble. That actually cleared my head.
I'll need to make attachments for each leg to place a line when I am not braiding it as in this video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxJY4lna5q0
I've braided artificial sinew before and this way is very tedious. I'll need to braid about 35 yards or meters for what I need. What I'll
do is modify what these 3 girls did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wALLyzF ... =70&t=177s
This is why the tripod. I can clamp the lines above it. And then I can have a triangle that I can push up into the braid so it is tighter.
That is what the one girl is doing with the device she is holding. This helps the rope fibers to interlock so that the rope does not unravel
when they are finished.
The 3 dowels in the picture are what I'll wrap the twine around. Then I'll secure that with a rubber band. I might add some weight so the
lines will be taught.
If Bessler was Hermes and I am Orpheus then the 3 girls represent fate. 3 sisters are fate in Greek mythology. One spins it, one measures
it and one cuts it.
A working Bessler Wheel might allow me to say I served in the U.S. Navy and have an interest in desalination. I worked in an auxiliary room
(and and engine room and steam catapult shop) on an aircraft carrier. With the IPCC report, I am sure someone would've noticed that because
gasses in the stratosphere have to originate in the troposphere (most do) that what the IPCC failed to consider was CH2O and water vapor
(H2O). It's kind of obvious. I mean they limited the possible interactions that could allow for their observations.
With seawater desalination, Bessler's Wheel might make it cost effective. That and I might've learned something in the Navy which I can't
mention. Some people find that offensive.

p.s., and the board pictured, if you want to know what a plate is, watch a video of steel girders being connected on a skyscraper. What I'll be
using to strengthen the frame. And now I'm late. I hope I don't get banned from the U.S. Oops, has already happened. I just need to serve
my banishment.
And a quick question. Why are 3 girls doing what 1 girl could do by herself? What's the challenge when people work together? I mean who's
better? Which girl? Bessler's Wheel is a project that in a world of over 7 Billion people no one has done it. In over 300 years, no one has
done it. And yet I am made to hate my life because I wanted to work with people?
I find it strange that no scientist wanted to know what the observations the IPCC meant. That is what science is about. And analytical
trigonometry and chemistry gives a frame work to consider those observations. That isn't rocket science. Getting something into space
is more difficult.
Kind of why I wanted to do a thread making known my working theory on Bessler's Wheel. But that got shot down. I have let one scientist
know that I'll have nothing to do with the science on my website. And that reason is Bessler's Wheel. Who likes being attacked?

https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/ma ... post_88640
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I made some plates today and I also stained them. The main axle mounts are finished except for
the oil ports. I will put a plug in the hole from the outside. This is where a thrust bearing would help
to keep the axle centered between the 2 retraction discs. The black object next to the hub is essentially
a wearing ring. Centrifugal pumps use them. if I add 2 nylon bushings then I'd be making it a thrust
bearing. Basically the hub of the axle could shift sideways but its movement would be limited.
And with how important alignment is in the function of a gravity type engine, it'd be better to do this now
than later on wishing I had done it. It's realizing additional details like these are needed that slows up the
progress of a build.
Just an FYI, why I know about thrust bearings is that Kingsbury thrust bearings are used to limit the
movement of the main shaft leading from the main reduction gears to a ships screw. If the shaft moves to
much then it could severely damage the reduction gears.

p.s., after all assembly is finished, I'll still need to braid about 35m/yards of line for rigging the wheel with.
Then with the 4 arms in question strengthened it should be good to go.
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image #1; I enlarged the opening for the axle to go through. It's possible that the axle was rubbing against
it because I tried to be too precise with it. image

image #2; I mounted the plate that will strengthen the frame where the pulley mount goes through it. Too
much material from the frame was removed to leave it structurally sound.

image #3; the wheel is once again on its stand. This time it will stay on its stand. I checked the level of the axle
and found that it was off by 1/8 inch. It is now off by about 1/32 inch. And then the axle alignment going towards
the back of the retraction discs is about 1/16 inch.

If anyone does the math, at 20 and 40 inches it will shift the path the retraction lines will follow. And this would not
allow for a proper alignment with the retraction discs. I in a way wasted a lot of time being concerned with oil seals.
They need to be a part of the design at the beginning of the build. The oil ports will hold sufficient lubricant to keep
the bearings and bushings lubricated.
If it works as I think it should then when I have a shop to work in then oil seals could be added. After I finish
assembling the wheel it will just sit there. The clamps are to hold the weight wheels close to the axle so they'll
create less stress on the arm it's on.
And then this will leave everything to braided lines and rigging the wheel. And as much as watl doesn't like it, this
would never work if the build was done in a hurry. If I do anymore builds I will have a shop and surgery so it'll be
easier for me to work quickly. And this is basically the 3rd prototype so it is still about learning how to build a wheel
like this. Any time he likes he can show his work. Unfortunately credible people don't have to show work.
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Very professional build, you can see that it is a lot of good work put into it! Can’t wait to see more of it, and even if it doesn’t work, I think it will give plenty of data to study.
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neuberlintourist1 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:43 pm Very professional build, you can see that it is a lot of good work put into it! Can’t wait to see more of it, and even if it doesn’t work, I think it will give plenty of data to study.
Thanks. I am hopeful it will work because of the research that I have done. Of all the work that is left to be done, braiding the lines
so I can rig the wheel is the majority of it. While I was unhappy about the arm breaking, those 4 arms will be reinforced. The rigging
will keep the ends from moving and will help to support the 4 arms with weight wheels. That is why all the arms are same length.

I have it completely assembled except for the catch and release tabs. Easy enough to do tomorrow. And tomorrow I'll by the jute
twine and get ready to start braiding. It might be next weekend when I'll be able to start testing it. I might need to add some more
screws so the pulley mounts will be firmly in place. This is why I'll do some testing before going over everything to make sure it is
solid. It will need to stay together if it works as I anticipate it will. Also I don't need another arm breaking. :)
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What's shown in the first image is the catch and release tab. I'll improve the notches. The 2 opposing
set of weight wheels will each have their rigging (control lines) use a different path. This will allow for
one line to be released while another will be caught. I know, genius, right? ROFL!?!

The 2nd image shows the kicker assembly. Where the duct tape is is what will hit a dowel in the retraction
disc. Then everything will be "kicked" outward. I'll most likely need to add a 3/8 inch thick piece of wood with
a little larger surface area. The kicker will be attached to the dowel. Then they'll always be in alignment with
each other.
When that arm is level with the axle or preferably a little below it is when the weight will will be kicked outward.

Since I have a lot of line to braid, adjusting the kicker assembly is a minor detail. I won't be able to adjust
it until the wheel is rigged. I need about 35 meters of braided line. If I braid 3 meters per day then that is basically
2 weeks. During that time I'll be able to have all of the kicker assemblies adjusted and ready to go. I won't be
able to finish the catch and release mechanism until I have the weight wheels rigged and the frame comes first.
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I'm going to wait on the rope for my build. I'll need to make a fixture so I can spin the twine into rope.
If I spin 2 lines into 1 and then 3 into 1 the fibers will lock the rope into place. Even nylon rope is locked
into place this way otherwise it would unravel.
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I just purchased 30M of 2mm stainless wire rope for $17 AU. You can pick up galvanised wire significantly cheaper. Either of these would be a quicker, stronger and easier than woven jute rigging. Timber bracing would also be an easy option. It doesn't need to be oak or African Blackwood.
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Tarsier79 wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:30 pm I just purchased 30M of 2mm stainless wire rope for $17 AU. You can pick up galvanised wire significantly cheaper. Either of these would be a quicker, stronger and easier than woven jute rigging. Timber bracing would also be an easy option. It doesn't need to be oak or African Blackwood.

I thought about using plywood (I did use mahogany plywood) and still might later on. I really don't have a place where I can rout
a 1m radius. How the wire could help is if a rim is added. Then it could stitch the 2 sides together with an occasional block. That
would help to discourage from the outer part of the wheel from twisting.
The drawing are catch and release parts I need to make. By having a left and a right they can help to guide the part that is going
to be seated. When opposing chamfers become guides. With the kicker assembly, because the dowel on each side of the wheel
are not positioned exactly the same the cue can be cut to length. The kicker will only need to move 10mm away from the axle if
that much. Just like with pool (billiards) the initial impact should have the weight wheel rolling.
With what's trailing behind those parts are weights. They're to help align the stops with their catches when they move onto the
retraction disc.
With the kicker assembly, you can see it's off by 3 or 4mm.
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When gravity accelerates a wheel, it's moment of inertia needs to be known.
An example is a wheel with a 1m radius. If the frame weighs 12kg and the weight's CoG is 50cm
from the axle and it has 4 1kg weight's, then it's moment of inertia is 16kg at 50cm.
When a weight moves outward 50cm then the wheel's moment of inertia becomes 15kg at 50cm.
The overbalanced weight at 1m has a net force of 1kg at 50cm. Since gravity accelerates at 9.81m/s, 1/15 = 0.67, then 0.67 x 9.81 = 0.654m/s.
Then as the wheel rotates the rate of acceleration will slow. An example is at a cos 30° the 0.654m/s when multiplied by 0.866 would show that acceleration has slowed. At cos 45° the 0.654m/s would be multiplied by 0.707 or cos 45.
This is because of the angle of the weight to the axis of rotation.

@agor, this is some of what I consider with my work. Then f = ma or momentum = mv can be considered. With my Bessler build, before the overbalanced weight reaches 60º (30º before bottom center) the weight rotating up from bottom center will have more negative force. Then I can consider the stored
energy in the wheel. Basic math suggests that close to 60º of rotation will generate enough momentum to rotate a weight 30º that is swinging closer
to the axle. And conservation of angular momentum might reduce the work necessary to lift it as well. Where alignment and lubrication is critical.
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