Bessler's wheel as a 'gift' to mankind.

[jim_mich]

since when do you guys get to make bible quotes and deny them to others
or attempt to dictate what i say?
i quoted 8 words from Jesus--which RELATED to the topic or at least previous posts
no apologies

By posting those first words, which you attributed to a biblical person by name, you inspired Turninator to carry the conversation further, quoting many religious passages. And then Turninator made another posting doing more quoting.

So you Dwylbtzle, were the instigator. You started it. So stop your bellyaching.

The only time I quote the Bible here on the forum is from Proverbs, and I only quote non-religious passages. And only in reply to religious quoting. The reason is that quoting the Bible lends more credibility when replying to a person quoting the bible. It is harder for them to refute what I say.

I could be quoting from Confucius. Proverbs is simply a collection of intelligent statements handed down from ancient times. Some Proverbs speak of God. Many don't. I do not see Proverbs as being religious when they simply pass on intelligent thought.

Delusions and religions seem to go hand in hand. You would not believe the religious ranting that can develop when a person is infected with both perpetual motion and religious strains of delusion.

The common consensus here on the forum is to leave religion out of most all conversations. Bessler was a religious person. Religious thoughts can be discussed if you're discussing some religious statement made by Bessler. Otherwise, park the religious remarks elsewhere.

[Dwylbtzle]

Every brand of death cult uses the same brand of fear to force the same brand of political control.

or else they try to make people fear to speak
i guess by bitching about it a lot
but that can't effect (edit: affect) eternal life cultists such as myself

hey--i quoted 8 words
then some other guy came in a posted half the bible
good for him
but it's nothing i did

jimmich quoted twice as many
and now a bunch of you have tried to get the last (off topic) word
so i guess that is yer social life
(going around and filling PAGES with bitch posts about other people's posts
the same people do it over and over, i've noticed)
not mine

i have contributed a lot to the scientific discourse in this forum
if someone comes after and posts..WHATEVER...
i have no more control over that than you would
so quityer bitchin'

[Dwylbtzle]

and excuse me, since when is "refering to a biblical person by name" some crime?

i coulda quoted any famous person
and usually do
my previous quote was from Taliesyn
and before that was Einstein, probably
(and everyone knows Proverbs was writen by David and Solomon
who also believe
so to quote one to gripe about a Jesus quote is rediculous)

[jim_mich]

Dwylbtzle, you really don't get it, do you?

since when is "refering to a biblical person by name" some crime?

It leads to others doing a lot of Bible quoting, commonly known to as 'Bible Thumping'. Which is exactly what did happen. And that is exactly why your quoting of those initial nine words was a wrong thing to do here on this forum.

Get over it. Drop the subject. Stop trolling for replies. Admit you made a bad judgment call. Or not. Simply move on. Stop compounding your original error by squabbling about it.

[ovyyus]

but that can't effect eternal life cultists such as myself

'Life insurance' is what the insurance industry calls insurance against death. Marketing creates pure white by inventing pure black.

[jim_mich]

Dwylbtzl, your original 8 word Biblical quote was of little consequence. I often simply ignore such Bible quotes. But the following 548 words in the two postings by Turninator, which were pure Bible Thumping, really pissed me off.

This in my thread that I starting, and I'm offended by such postings that lend nothing to the original subject of this thread.

[Dwylbtzle]

'Life insurance' is what the insurance industry calls insurance against death. Marketing creates pure white by inventing pure black.

that appears to be an expression of a religious belief

[Dwylbtzle]

Dwylbtzl, your original 8 word Biblical quote was of little consequence. I often simply ignore such Bible quotes. But the following 548 words in the two postings by Turninator, which were pure Bible Thumping, really pissed me off.

This in my thread that I starting, and I'm offended by such postings that lend nothing to the original subject of this thread.

then direct your ire at the guy who posted (a fraction of the words as youse guys' off- topic bitch fests, by the way), ok?

i posted 8

i had every right to post 8 frikkin words

i'm not some elmer gantry in this forum and you damn well know it

your offense that is taken to what he posted
is also a religious feeling on your part
so far, your gripey bitter words expressing it, outnumber his by magnitudes

you DO this all the time, you know

i remember one series of posts that must have numbered 50, 000 damn words--all about how you didn't like my STYLE of writing
and that was in MY thread
and "dwylbtzle's wordy, jokey verbiage style" was NOT the topic
i assure you

[Dwylbtzle]

and my 8 words came after about a half a page of whether hell is exothermic or not
sheesh
and then look at ALL THE OTHER weird-assed pseudo-cosmic shit that was posted JUST on that previous page, alone

[rlortie]

OK! so it is time to get back on topic. Bessler's wheel as a 'gift' to mankind.

If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are
the others here for?

I do not believe in giving anything away, those who receive without earning will not appreciate what they did not have to work for. All they will expect is more. I do not bother to pass on helpful hints unless it is to someone who has earned my respect, which is not hard to do.

This is Jim_Mich's thread, he can relate to my exothermic story as we have discussed it before, I give it as an example of Boyle's Law related to entropy, enthalpy and fluid dynamics involving exothermic machines.

Dwylbtzle

If you wish to pitch a bitch, start a "Bitch" thread in Off-Topic, I will gladly meet you there!

Ralph

[Dwylbtzle]

no, for me, it would be a "bitching about bitching" thread, i guess
hehe

to the topic:

i've ground my head around all the different ways with these questions
and i have come to the conclusion that if one tries to OWN the idea
one will be denied--for national security reasons
ripped off
killed
or all of the above

so:
if you use it in commerce--and get PAID for it
and get it documented that you did
and get other people to use it and charge for it
when it's NOT patented already
it's in the public domain

then just try to produce the best selling version
hell if they won't let you git rich one way
improvise adapt and overcome
(amen)

[ovyyus]

that appears to be an expression of a religious belief

Marketing is not religion, its a tool. When used by religion it enables political purpose. Ideas and belief separate us then pain and suffering bring us back together. Social engineering is the art of purposeful separation and recombination according to an arbitrary plan. That is religion.

[Dwylbtzle]

your last few posts have clearly expressed where you stand
and is "offensive" to believers
or at least religious people
--and was clearly meant to be so

but you don't hear me bitching about it
i just bitch about bitching
hehe

[rlortie]

DP

[ovyyus]

No religious argument was ever won with words. It is a game of brute force.

FWIW, I largely agree with your assessment of the possibility of owning a radical patent.