MT94

[Stewart]

Hi Michael,

In answer to your question about where I saw MT94 & 95 - I have copies of the original MT images. I have made a very quick and rough image of MT94 which I have attached to this post to give you the basic idea. Perhaps Bill could help you further. I have also attached the spiral image from the website about "Rotation of the Elements" which prompted these posts.

All the best
Stewart

[Patrick]

I wonder how Ovyyus is doing in researching the other MT drawings. Is it worthwhile to try and source the originals from Germany as some folks have done? I still do not have access to these.
best regards--Patrick

[Michael]

Thanks Stewart. This looks like another example of Bessler using/or maybe hinting at a Archemedian type screw. Oyvvus, after looking at this-getting back to the idea of a heat engine we talked about long ago, you know how the best way to cool something off is to immerse it in water. Interesting thing (I think) about using a deisign like this for that is as the water condenses it can only fall back into the spiral. There's several interesting things about this actually, such as the more spirals put on the wheel, the less back torque. There would still be a load, but negligible back torque, and if the wheel was cut in half vertically, and a spiral put on opposite on the other side, the chambers connected by the center axil, and the rim, there would be no load as water comes up from the rim to the axil, and is brought down at the exact same time from the axil to the rim. Again interesting for a heat engine. I guess what's got me thinking of that was listening to coast to coast last night. The guest talked about the great pyramids being designed such that heat via air was allowed to rise and leave through ducts, and it pulled in cold air, keeping the place naturally air conditioned.

Mike

[Jonathan]

I don't understand either drawing...or was that Bessler's point?

[Georg]

again this is an example for a swinging, oscillating system. The water doesn't stay fix until rotation, it swings, on every level of the spiral.
Think of a washing machine. The washing machine has only one level to swing. Here we have n-levels.

Best regards

Georg

[Georg Künstler]

again this is an example for a swinging, oscillating system. The water doesn't stay fix duringl rotation, it swings, on every level of the spiral.
Think of a washing machine. The washing machine has only one level to swing. Here we have n-levels.

Best regards

Georg

[MrTim]

I don't understand either drawing...or was that Bessler's point?

If you look at the picture, 'A' is Bessler's wheel, 'C' ('D' is a side-on view of 'C') is a 'screw' for lifting water (the water runs out near the axle.)
C/D is the inside of a wheel, just not the one you want it to be.

The problem with using a liquid/spiral for a wheel design is that the liquid is going to generate a lot of resistance via friction. Oscillate it and you WILL get a washing machine.

[Jonathan]

I still don't get it, the B's appear to make the C's go around without spinning, and I don't get what i and D are for. It doesn't matter though, since it I guess it doesn't work.