http://www.gravitycontrol.org/index.html
An interesting anti-gravity site, looking to make a documentary. (based on evidence)
I wonder if they'd be interested in gravity wheels?
Gravity Control
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re: Gravity Control
coylo...
The site says:
I think I did see some sort of documentary a few years ago on gravity control or levitation. It covered various ways to levitate objects and went into demonstrations of such things as maglev trains and using sound waves to suspend small objects (like insects) in the air. There was also some mention of the levitation done by students of yoga, but it was just a bunch of students hopping around using their folded legs to get airborne for a fraction of a second.
Right now, there are dozens of theories on how to control gravity (I present one such theory on my website...see my article "A UFO Propulsion Primer"), but no workable equipment to do it. As in the OU/PM field, there will be a percentage of inventors who claim to have done it or are doing it, but, upon rigorous testing, they will all probably be shown to be hoaxes.
Yes, gravity control would be nice. If we could reduce the mass of an object low enough, then we could take a normally heavy object, such as a car, and reduce it's weight to the point were it would float in the air like a miniature dirigible. Attach some propellers and flaps and one immediately has a usable "sky car"...something like the flying cars envisioned in the Back to the Future movies.
ken
The site says:
which, since that is very improbable, means they will have a lot of trouble making the documentary.This site is an invitation to anyone who can demonstrate gravity control on demand to be verified by scientists
I think I did see some sort of documentary a few years ago on gravity control or levitation. It covered various ways to levitate objects and went into demonstrations of such things as maglev trains and using sound waves to suspend small objects (like insects) in the air. There was also some mention of the levitation done by students of yoga, but it was just a bunch of students hopping around using their folded legs to get airborne for a fraction of a second.
Right now, there are dozens of theories on how to control gravity (I present one such theory on my website...see my article "A UFO Propulsion Primer"), but no workable equipment to do it. As in the OU/PM field, there will be a percentage of inventors who claim to have done it or are doing it, but, upon rigorous testing, they will all probably be shown to be hoaxes.
Yes, gravity control would be nice. If we could reduce the mass of an object low enough, then we could take a normally heavy object, such as a car, and reduce it's weight to the point were it would float in the air like a miniature dirigible. Attach some propellers and flaps and one immediately has a usable "sky car"...something like the flying cars envisioned in the Back to the Future movies.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: Gravity Control
Ken,
Here is a quoted post from jlnlabs.
Multiple forces and conversions of energy to produce force in a
desired vector without need for an external liquid or propellant.
B. E. original design 1999. Enhancements ongoing. Copyright
09/21/2005 E-Drive System
Theory of net force in vector:
In the E-Drive System (EDS) the use of rotating disks, mechanical
gates and release mechanisms, magnetic brakes and driveline systems
are utilized to transport a mass through a cyclic path of linear,
rotational, linear, torsional/rotational, to linear motion in order
to produce a net thrust in a desired vector.
The rotating of the mass requires counter rotating disks and
identical but inverted mechanical means to carry mass throughout
cycle as to avoid rotational forces with only a single disk
mechanism.
The disk mechanism can be any size based on performance needed and
materials on hand. The ideal scenario is to have a motor to drive
the center axle to spin the disk from the center in this first disk
coutnerclockwise. The first disk will have a feeder mechanism which
will drop the mass slightly off center of the disk into a
rectangular guide to the outer edge of the disk. The theory is to
get the mass rotating with the least amount of work on the disk
which through centripetal acceleration will enable the mass to
gradually end up at the outer edge of the spinning disk where
tangential velocity is peak. Magnetic bearings for the motor and
axle to the disk are recommended for high RPM and longevity
purposes.
Once the rectangular mass is at the edge of the disk, a gate/trigger
will release the mass in the desired thrust vector. A small gap and
time from the release of the mass from the spinning disk will hurl
the mass into a guided chamber. In this guided chamber, the first
resistance to the mass comes when the mass passes thru a turnstile
type mechanism which is set to spin a flywheel that can produce
electricity or spin an axle for work/motor/generator. Also, the
guided path for the mass in motion can have a wire coil around it to
take advantage of Faraday's Law if the mass is magnetic. Last in
the
process of this guided path is a magnetic brake.
http://www.h2wtech.com/magbrake.htm When the magnetic brake assembly
is mounted to the closed system, the entire system results in a net
force vector. The mass is the rectangular or conductive plate as
outlined in the link above as one example. The principles of Impulse
vs. Impact are important for this application. It has been noted and
proven that impulse force can be as much as 3 times greater than
impact force since the time variable can be managed by the magnetic
break settings. The mathematicians can calculate the impulse force
of a 5 Kg mass with tangential velocity of 95 meters/sec over
different impulse times from .5 seconds to .005 seconds.
The magnetic brake then forwards the now slow moving mass along a
guided path back to the center of the rotating disk and the cycle
repeats quite rapidly based on performance requirements. Remember
there would be two counter rotating disk assemblies in unison but
inverted to each other each sending mass in same force vector.
System is scaleable in adding disks, multiple units, or multiple
units of different sizes based on needs.
I have a word document with images for further clarification. Let me
know if you want a copy.
I am looking for someone to build one to at least prove the theory
dead. After 6 years of constantly reviewing the design I think this
may be the one.
Thanks
BE
Here is a quoted post from jlnlabs.
Multiple forces and conversions of energy to produce force in a
desired vector without need for an external liquid or propellant.
B. E. original design 1999. Enhancements ongoing. Copyright
09/21/2005 E-Drive System
Theory of net force in vector:
In the E-Drive System (EDS) the use of rotating disks, mechanical
gates and release mechanisms, magnetic brakes and driveline systems
are utilized to transport a mass through a cyclic path of linear,
rotational, linear, torsional/rotational, to linear motion in order
to produce a net thrust in a desired vector.
The rotating of the mass requires counter rotating disks and
identical but inverted mechanical means to carry mass throughout
cycle as to avoid rotational forces with only a single disk
mechanism.
The disk mechanism can be any size based on performance needed and
materials on hand. The ideal scenario is to have a motor to drive
the center axle to spin the disk from the center in this first disk
coutnerclockwise. The first disk will have a feeder mechanism which
will drop the mass slightly off center of the disk into a
rectangular guide to the outer edge of the disk. The theory is to
get the mass rotating with the least amount of work on the disk
which through centripetal acceleration will enable the mass to
gradually end up at the outer edge of the spinning disk where
tangential velocity is peak. Magnetic bearings for the motor and
axle to the disk are recommended for high RPM and longevity
purposes.
Once the rectangular mass is at the edge of the disk, a gate/trigger
will release the mass in the desired thrust vector. A small gap and
time from the release of the mass from the spinning disk will hurl
the mass into a guided chamber. In this guided chamber, the first
resistance to the mass comes when the mass passes thru a turnstile
type mechanism which is set to spin a flywheel that can produce
electricity or spin an axle for work/motor/generator. Also, the
guided path for the mass in motion can have a wire coil around it to
take advantage of Faraday's Law if the mass is magnetic. Last in
the
process of this guided path is a magnetic brake.
http://www.h2wtech.com/magbrake.htm When the magnetic brake assembly
is mounted to the closed system, the entire system results in a net
force vector. The mass is the rectangular or conductive plate as
outlined in the link above as one example. The principles of Impulse
vs. Impact are important for this application. It has been noted and
proven that impulse force can be as much as 3 times greater than
impact force since the time variable can be managed by the magnetic
break settings. The mathematicians can calculate the impulse force
of a 5 Kg mass with tangential velocity of 95 meters/sec over
different impulse times from .5 seconds to .005 seconds.
The magnetic brake then forwards the now slow moving mass along a
guided path back to the center of the rotating disk and the cycle
repeats quite rapidly based on performance requirements. Remember
there would be two counter rotating disk assemblies in unison but
inverted to each other each sending mass in same force vector.
System is scaleable in adding disks, multiple units, or multiple
units of different sizes based on needs.
I have a word document with images for further clarification. Let me
know if you want a copy.
I am looking for someone to build one to at least prove the theory
dead. After 6 years of constantly reviewing the design I think this
may be the one.
Thanks
BE
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Ralph...
This:
I'm starting to think that inertial or reactionless drives are almost as plentiful as PM machine designs! The two probably have something in common...most likely, a misunderstanding of the physics involved on the part of the inventor!
ken
This:
sounds way too complicated for me to follow, but it sounds like some sort of complex reactionless drive mechanism. I'd have to see a picture to fully understand it.In the E-Drive System (EDS) the use of rotating disks, mechanical
gates and release mechanisms, magnetic brakes and driveline systems
are utilized to transport a mass through a cyclic path of linear,
rotational, linear, torsional/rotational, to linear motion in order
to produce a net thrust in a desired vector.
I'm starting to think that inertial or reactionless drives are almost as plentiful as PM machine designs! The two probably have something in common...most likely, a misunderstanding of the physics involved on the part of the inventor!
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: Gravity Control
Ken,
If you admit that its too complicated for you to follow, then you can bet your sweet bippy, its way over my head. I do not understand it but knew you were in to such things.
Ralph
If you admit that its too complicated for you to follow, then you can bet your sweet bippy, its way over my head. I do not understand it but knew you were in to such things.
Ralph
re: Gravity Control
Either my ears were burning that you were commenting about our website or an act of synchronicity just took place as I was on a page about Bessler's wheel and now I'm here.
Thank you for your comments regarding gravity control.
We are in the throes of releasing new information so please check back soon.
Jim
www.gravitycontrol.org
ps, that site I was visiting before being drawn to yours
http://www.free-energy.co.uk/
Thank you for your comments regarding gravity control.
We are in the throes of releasing new information so please check back soon.
Jim
www.gravitycontrol.org
ps, that site I was visiting before being drawn to yours
http://www.free-energy.co.uk/
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Jim (from gravitycontrol.org)...
Welcome to our Discussion Board. There seems to be some interest in your device here, but it's verbal description is too complicated to follow. Can you provide us with a link to an image/schematic of it or, better yet, could post an image/schematic of it here for us to peruse?
ken
Welcome to our Discussion Board. There seems to be some interest in your device here, but it's verbal description is too complicated to follow. Can you provide us with a link to an image/schematic of it or, better yet, could post an image/schematic of it here for us to peruse?
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: Gravity Control
You may want to check out this interesting site regarding lifters!!
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/perf.htm
They say that it isn't antigravity though cause the device fails to work within a vacuum! But the tests carried out so far do indicate an antigravity device! Judge for yourselves!
Thare are also heaps of videos that you can download & watch regarding them..
And build your own! http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/howto.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/perf.htm
They say that it isn't antigravity though cause the device fails to work within a vacuum! But the tests carried out so far do indicate an antigravity device! Judge for yourselves!
Thare are also heaps of videos that you can download & watch regarding them..
And build your own! http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/howto.htm
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I had some interest in that Biefeld Brown stuff a few decades ago. However, at that time it was also not capable of operating in a vacuum and any thrust generated was dismissed as due to "electric wind", a phenomena I experimented with when I built my first Van de Graaff generator. Personally, I'd be a little nervous sitting inside of an aircraft whose structures needed to be electrically charged to tens of thousands of volts!
ken
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: Gravity Control
Just dropped by to invite you to see the new input at gravitycontrol.org.
Answers to your questions and downloadable stuff.
Jim
www.gravitycontrol.org
Answers to your questions and downloadable stuff.
Jim
www.gravitycontrol.org
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Jim, who are the individuals (the 'we') running this website? I can't find mention of them or a verified name and/or address anywhere - strange.
Why is the domain registered to someone in China? Why does it's purpose seem to be focussed on targeting potential investors? Why do the associated forums and blogs look bogus. Why have you only posted here twice - both times were to troll for traffic to your site? Why does gravitycontrol.org seem like another variation on an old scam designed to rip off potential investors with 'vaporware'?
Why is the domain registered to someone in China? Why does it's purpose seem to be focussed on targeting potential investors? Why do the associated forums and blogs look bogus. Why have you only posted here twice - both times were to troll for traffic to your site? Why does gravitycontrol.org seem like another variation on an old scam designed to rip off potential investors with 'vaporware'?
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Bill...
You've asked some interesting questions!
I visited the GravityControl site and it appears that they are making a movie on the subject and soliciting people with working gravity control devices to make submission of the devices for inclusion in the movie. Sounds like an interesting project...IF the device's presented are genuine.
ken
You've asked some interesting questions!
I visited the GravityControl site and it appears that they are making a movie on the subject and soliciting people with working gravity control devices to make submission of the devices for inclusion in the movie. Sounds like an interesting project...IF the device's presented are genuine.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
re: Gravity Control
Ken, there will be no documentary - here's a quote from the website which describes what it's really about:
It's a scam Ken.
Check out the site properly, check out their bogus forum, check out their credentials, do a bit of digging, read between the lines - all look familiar?If you would like to help fund or support The Quest For Gravity Control by means of monetary contribution, please click...
It's a scam Ken.
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.......ovyyus, that is just what i found........it's about the $$$$$$$$$$$$
re: Gravity Control
Yeah, I checked it out too. Despite my apparent 'leanings' I quickly managed to reach the same conclusion as Bill. Just imagine what China could do with the simple wonder of free and easy gravity transduction, Huh Bill.
Go figure.
TS
Go figure.
TS
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