I know several posters have their own websites. John is building a new website and it seems to be a long process.
How does one get started ,and is it difficult ?
If it's not too much work I might have a go at it myself so any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Graham
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Graham,
You might consider starting a yahoo club (or something similar) first. It's about the same although you don't have the flexibility you would have if you had your own server. You also would have no expense. It's a trade off. There also aren't the administrative hassles. If it's something that looks like you wouldn't mind spending the money and time on after a while you could move it to your own server. I started a club at yahoo that I plan on doing that with sometime in the near future.
You might email Scott and ask him about the details of having his own server and maintaining this site. I use a particular site from time to time for market data and there's no way on earth you can talk to the people that have the site. You can email them until you're blue in the face and they won't respond. That's another way some handle it.
Gene
You might consider starting a yahoo club (or something similar) first. It's about the same although you don't have the flexibility you would have if you had your own server. You also would have no expense. It's a trade off. There also aren't the administrative hassles. If it's something that looks like you wouldn't mind spending the money and time on after a while you could move it to your own server. I started a club at yahoo that I plan on doing that with sometime in the near future.
You might email Scott and ask him about the details of having his own server and maintaining this site. I use a particular site from time to time for market data and there's no way on earth you can talk to the people that have the site. You can email them until you're blue in the face and they won't respond. That's another way some handle it.
Gene
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Graham,
First you need someone to host your site. That means someone somewhere has a computer connected to the interent, and on that computer resides your web site files. My internet supplier provides me with 25 mega-bytes of computer memory along with a websight address access to that memory. When you click http://my.voyager.net/~jrrandall/index.html the internet connects to a computer owned by Corecomm-Voyager and a file named index.html that resides in their jrrandall subdirectory gets sent to your computer. That html file is a special type of text file (Hyper Text Markup Language) that is like a programing language in that it tells your computer how to display text, pictures, links, etc.
Your website will contain a number of files. Some will be html while others will be pictures or other types of files, even sub-directories. Your mission, if you choose to make your own website, is to create the needed files and upload them to the host computer.
HTML files can be very simple or they can be very complex containing other code languages such as Java or Script. If you have some programing background skills you can hand write the HTML code, or there are programs that will write the html code for you. Those program that write code tend to add a lot of fluffy redundunt code that increases the size of your files which in turn increases the page loading time.
Below is some sample html code text. Copy and paste it into notepad. Save it (desktop) as Jim.html and it should run on your computer.
I use a shareware html editor called "CuteHTML" and another shareware program called "SimpleFTP" to manage moving files to and from my website.
What is difficult for some is easy for others. I think it is just a matter of learning how.
First you need someone to host your site. That means someone somewhere has a computer connected to the interent, and on that computer resides your web site files. My internet supplier provides me with 25 mega-bytes of computer memory along with a websight address access to that memory. When you click http://my.voyager.net/~jrrandall/index.html the internet connects to a computer owned by Corecomm-Voyager and a file named index.html that resides in their jrrandall subdirectory gets sent to your computer. That html file is a special type of text file (Hyper Text Markup Language) that is like a programing language in that it tells your computer how to display text, pictures, links, etc.
Your website will contain a number of files. Some will be html while others will be pictures or other types of files, even sub-directories. Your mission, if you choose to make your own website, is to create the needed files and upload them to the host computer.
HTML files can be very simple or they can be very complex containing other code languages such as Java or Script. If you have some programing background skills you can hand write the HTML code, or there are programs that will write the html code for you. Those program that write code tend to add a lot of fluffy redundunt code that increases the size of your files which in turn increases the page loading time.
Below is some sample html code text. Copy and paste it into notepad. Save it (desktop) as Jim.html and it should run on your computer.
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<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>My Page</TITLE>
<META name="description" content="Example Page">
<META name="generator" content="CuteHTML">
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFBF4" TEXT="#000000" LINK="#0000FF" VLINK="#800080">
<center><big>Jim_Mich HTML Example Page</big></center><br>
<hr size="10" width="60%" noshade color="red"> <! makes a horizontal red line>
<br> <! line break>
<a href="http://my.voyager.net/~jrrandall/index.html" name="Jim's Home Page">
Link</a> <! Link address and text to display>
to Jim_Mich home page. <! more text>
<br><br>
This is a picture with a link...
<a href="http://my.voyager.net/jrrandall/index.html">
<img src="http://my.voyager.net/jrrandall/Jim_Mich.gif" border="0" align="middle" width="77"
height="14" alt="Jim_Mich Home Page"></a>
<br><br>
Note the there is only a line break when <br> is in the code.<br><br>
Remark statements start with <!
<br><br>
There is a LOT more, but this should give you an idea.<br>
</BODY>
</HTML>What is difficult for some is easy for others. I think it is just a matter of learning how.
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i have a web page, for friends and family ," free " , from yahoo and it is 3 gig's
gordy
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Hi Jim, I copied and pasted your code into notepad but how do I get it to run the html code ?
When I open it or select "run" from the start button all I get is the C/P text.
Gene instead of "my own website I probably should have said web page.
Another question. Is it possible to view the html code of a webpage you are visiting ?
Thanks for the feedback,
Graham
When I open it or select "run" from the start button all I get is the C/P text.
Gene instead of "my own website I probably should have said web page.
Another question. Is it possible to view the html code of a webpage you are visiting ?
Thanks for the feedback,
Graham
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Graham.
Ralph
I certainly am not a computer expert, the only way I know of to view the html code is to do the following. Copy the url link or right click and forward to mail recipient or paste it into a mail message. Then send it to a fictitious address. When Your IP Damion sends it back as undeliverable it will be in html code. Depending on how long your IP holds on or attempts delivery will vary. I have mailed to a dead address and did not get it back for up to nine hours.Another question. Is it possible to view the html code of a webpage you are visiting ?
Ralph
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Graham,
Fine point. I do see a difference between having a page on the web and having a site. I think if you have a site you would be concerned with promoting it and also having something to promote. The site would have to have some appeal that would cause people to want to visit it.
At Besslerwheel there was one forum format and Scott took the time to upgrade it to what we now have. I never used the old format but I've followed links to it. I think what is here is quite an improvement and those improvements are a time commitment. Scott puts in the effort on this site to give it some appeal and there also is the idea of coming somewhere to bounce ideas off of very sharp people. Bill's site on the other hand is rather static. Not too much changes there yet it has appeal also. There's quite a bit of information yet also it's visually pleasing.
The site I imagine having one day will have market commentary. I have quite a passion for the market. As soon as I make a wheel that will turn I plan on spending more time with it. :)
Gene
ps: if you're using navigator and you right click on the page there's an option of 'view page source.' That will open up a window with the html.
Fine point. I do see a difference between having a page on the web and having a site. I think if you have a site you would be concerned with promoting it and also having something to promote. The site would have to have some appeal that would cause people to want to visit it.
At Besslerwheel there was one forum format and Scott took the time to upgrade it to what we now have. I never used the old format but I've followed links to it. I think what is here is quite an improvement and those improvements are a time commitment. Scott puts in the effort on this site to give it some appeal and there also is the idea of coming somewhere to bounce ideas off of very sharp people. Bill's site on the other hand is rather static. Not too much changes there yet it has appeal also. There's quite a bit of information yet also it's visually pleasing.
The site I imagine having one day will have market commentary. I have quite a passion for the market. As soon as I make a wheel that will turn I plan on spending more time with it. :)
Gene
ps: if you're using navigator and you right click on the page there's an option of 'view page source.' That will open up a window with the html.
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re: Your own website
It is the file extention that tells your computer how to open a file. Make very sure that the file name extention is ".html". If you use notepad to save the file be sure to "Save As" and make the name "jim.html". It is the naming of the files that is important.
If you are using Internet Explorer then you can view the source code by clicking 'View' then 'Source'. Sometime this doesn't work. My computer used to do this OK but now it doesn't. It will view source code that is on my computer, but it won't view code from the internet. I think the last IE version changed something.
You can go into the Windows Temporary Internet Files and move a copy elsewhere like to your desktop. I have so many temporary file that my computer get indigestion when I try to enter there.
There are a lot of other tricks that can be used to view html code. Basicaly they all involve opening a copy of the file using something other than a browser. After all they are just text files!
It is the combination of using a browser along with a internet type file that makes the internet work. There are a number of file types that a browser can open. The forum uses .php type files.
If you are using Internet Explorer then you can view the source code by clicking 'View' then 'Source'. Sometime this doesn't work. My computer used to do this OK but now it doesn't. It will view source code that is on my computer, but it won't view code from the internet. I think the last IE version changed something.
You can go into the Windows Temporary Internet Files and move a copy elsewhere like to your desktop. I have so many temporary file that my computer get indigestion when I try to enter there.
There are a lot of other tricks that can be used to view html code. Basicaly they all involve opening a copy of the file using something other than a browser. After all they are just text files!
It is the combination of using a browser along with a internet type file that makes the internet work. There are a number of file types that a browser can open. The forum uses .php type files.
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It'snot a long process, Graham - I'm just trying to do so many other things at the same time!
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Graham...
I've only been on the web about 3 years now and started out with a second hand webTV receiver (cost $5 USD!) that used my living room TV as a monitor. This device is not a computer, but an "internet terminal" because it contains no drives. However, despite this severe limitation, I was still able to build an attractive website after being online for only 6 months!
My advice is this. Go to Tripod and sign up for one of their free websites. They give you something like 10 Mb of disc space and a bandwidth of, I think, 20 Gb per month. Of course, since it's for free you have to agree to let them put their banner ads on your webpages. You can get the ads removed and get more space on their discs with unlimited bandwidth if you want to pay for it.
I found their setup to be the easiest to use of several website hosters I looked into. I decided to do it the hard way and "hand coded" all of my own webpages using the HTML that I learned from several sites on the web.
However, if you do not want to be bothered learning HTML (it's not really a programming language...it reminds me more of the instructions that used to be used on linotype machines!), then tripod has a quick page maker that you just type your text onto and it will automatically format the webpages for you.
Tripod will also give you a free "subdomain" with your website. That is, the URL for your site will, perhaps, read: http://www.grahamsgravitymotors.tripod.com. I decided that I wanted to look as "professional" as possible, so I registered my own domain name (www.cosmicvault.com). For a no hassle way to do this, I recommend going to HeroNetworks.com to register. The cost to lease my domain name is only $10 USD per year there!
Yes, building a website of one's own can give one great satisfaction. Although I have not had anything new to add to mine for a while now (I'm too busy posting over here!), I still get some email from surfers who read through my articles and find them of value. Mainly, its your little place on the internet where YOU decide what is relevant and what is not!
ken
I've only been on the web about 3 years now and started out with a second hand webTV receiver (cost $5 USD!) that used my living room TV as a monitor. This device is not a computer, but an "internet terminal" because it contains no drives. However, despite this severe limitation, I was still able to build an attractive website after being online for only 6 months!
My advice is this. Go to Tripod and sign up for one of their free websites. They give you something like 10 Mb of disc space and a bandwidth of, I think, 20 Gb per month. Of course, since it's for free you have to agree to let them put their banner ads on your webpages. You can get the ads removed and get more space on their discs with unlimited bandwidth if you want to pay for it.
I found their setup to be the easiest to use of several website hosters I looked into. I decided to do it the hard way and "hand coded" all of my own webpages using the HTML that I learned from several sites on the web.
However, if you do not want to be bothered learning HTML (it's not really a programming language...it reminds me more of the instructions that used to be used on linotype machines!), then tripod has a quick page maker that you just type your text onto and it will automatically format the webpages for you.
Tripod will also give you a free "subdomain" with your website. That is, the URL for your site will, perhaps, read: http://www.grahamsgravitymotors.tripod.com. I decided that I wanted to look as "professional" as possible, so I registered my own domain name (www.cosmicvault.com). For a no hassle way to do this, I recommend going to HeroNetworks.com to register. The cost to lease my domain name is only $10 USD per year there!
Yes, building a website of one's own can give one great satisfaction. Although I have not had anything new to add to mine for a while now (I'm too busy posting over here!), I still get some email from surfers who read through my articles and find them of value. Mainly, its your little place on the internet where YOU decide what is relevant and what is not!
ken
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Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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http://www.visionplateau.com are inexpensive and very good - $24 US per year hosting + about $8 .com domain purchase/annual registration fee.
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Thankyou for all the helpful information. I do appreciate all the help from you guys.
PS . Jim it was saved as a " .html " file but still only comes up as a text document. :-(
Graham
PS . Jim it was saved as a " .html " file but still only comes up as a text document. :-(
Graham
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The newer Windows operating systems keep getting "smarter" all the time. It thinks that since you saved it from a text editor then it wants to open it with the same editor. You could try "tricking" it into using you web browser to open it. Open your browser and enter the address of the file something like this... C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\Jim.html which should open it as a web page.
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graham wrote:it was saved as a " .html " file but still only comes up as a text document.
Then it was probably still saved as a .txt file. Programs like Notepad will automatically tack on ".txt" to a file name if you have selected "save as text document," which is the default in the dialog and easy to miss. Also, Windows Explorer will hide extensions like .txt from you by default.
In Windows Explorer (not Internet Explorer), click Tools -> Folder Options, then the "View" tab. Under advanced settings find the one called "Hide file extensions for known file types" and turn that evil setting off.
Now open your file again in Notepad, click File -> Save As..., then type the filename with ".html" at the end, then click the drop down labeled "Save as Type" and change the selection to "All Files" before clicking OK.
Now find your new file in Windows Explorer (not Internet Explorer) wherever you saved it on your hard drive. Left click the file once to select it, then hold the shift key and right click the file. In the popup menu select "Open With..." then click "Choose Program..." Eventually a list of programs will appear, find your browser in the list and click the "always use this program" option, then click OK.
And you're done. Isn't Windoze fun? :-)
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"Liberty is the Mother, not the Daughter of Order."
- Pierre Proudhon, 1881
"To forbid us anything is to make us have a mind for it."
- Michel de Montaigne, 1559
"So easy it seemed, once found, which yet unfound most would have thought impossible!"
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Thankyou Scott, you're sooo clever !!!
Graham
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