Oxygon's Seeker Wheel... (Concept)

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I was just searching the forum and the recent idea inspired a thought...

tell me what you think...

This device works like this...

the magnetic spheres/weights are pulled by the magnetic track (This is an attractive force) either inward or outward...

...nothing special yet.

The key here is not only is the distance of weights greater from the axis on the right, then on the left...

As the weights pull inward to remain near the magnetic track on the left they add a upward pull (on the left side)... because of the magnetic tracks inward incline towards 9 o'clock position, then upward again until at the top...

the weights on the left are pulled in and then up and therefore take away the weight from the wheel...

From 12 to 6 they are pulled outward,but since the proximity from the axis is constant there weight is the only influence...

So I see the idea working...

give me your objections please...

I had to redraw the image twice so tell me if i have missed something

P.S. - the magnetic track is external to the wheel
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Magnetic track/rails and weights produce the exact same end result as non-magnetic track/rails and weights.
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Post by ken_behrendt »

Oxy...

You design is very close to "Andy's Magnetic Gravity Motor" which, down in the Community Buzz forum, was shown to be unworkable.

However, if you can figure out a way for the weights to shift themselves without the need to interact with any fixed objects outside of the wheel, then that would be a quite different matter. Most likely, it would lead to success!


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On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Magnetic track/rails and weights produce the exact same end result as non-magnetic track/rails and weights.
umm... no they don't, they are different. Tracks/rails do not attract they push. the concept isn't based on pushing...
You design is very close to "Andy's Magnetic Gravity Motor"
Your comparing this to the Andy Motor...?

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First let me add that from "6 to 9" the weights add torque to the wheel because they are at max swing angle inward and they pull toward the external track... adding clockwise torsion

From "9 to 12" the weights are supported up from the wheel by the attractive force of the magnetic track...

From "12 to 6" the weights have no magnetic influence to add or subtract from the wheel, there distance is constant.
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Oxygon wrote:umm... no they don't, they are different. Tracks/rails do not attract they push. the concept isn't based on pushing...
There's no difference. The same weight of the mass is carried by the track/rail - whether it's magnetic or not, pushing, pulling, whatever.
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from 9 to twelve... the weight is attracted/pulled up and away from the anchor point...

its influential weight on the model is reduced.

...a track/rail could not cause a negative.
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